ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
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Present: BL90, Core, BL6000, CD7000, Beogram 7000, Essence Remote.
Past: BL1, BL2, BL8000, BS9000, BL5, BC2, BS5, BV5, BV4-50, Beosystem 3, BL3, DVD1, Beoremote 4, Moment.
It already was - however LEE must keep his lips tight.
There was talk about August as date for the launch.
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There is a tv - and there is a BV
Last week of august. We just got trained.
Got the opinion of two different french dealers gone to the presentation this week.
Both are disappointed by the look. Bigger and "classical look" in perticular from the front. the side are more classy.
One find them above of the beolab 5, the other one no.
Truth is elsewhere ...
4 beolab 5, beolab 9, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 6002, beolab 3500, beovision 7 55 mk2, 2 beovision 11 46 mk4, beotime, beosound ouverture, beosound essence, beoplay A8, beomaster 900 RG de luxe and the collection continues...
You are right. I don't know the details of the presentation. You don't have too long to wait.
As I have listened to the bl90 and wasn't convinced at all considering the price, I think that beo has with the bl50 a good card to play. The positiv fact for me is that they kept at least one acoustic lens (appears and disappear) and the price not a lot above the actual for the bl5.
They have probably searched the best compromise.
olvisab: The positiv fact for me is that they kept at least one acoustic lens (appears and disappear)
The positiv fact for me is that they kept at least one acoustic lens (appears and disappear)
This would be a good economical way to do a "Wide/Omni" and "Narrow" beam width without trebling up on drivers and amps. Whether there is too much difference in how this voices from one mode to another I guess we will have to wait and see (hear)
If I quite understood their explanation there are also speakers (passiv/activ ?) at the back.
For the highs, the acoustic lens is hard to bit and proved its efficiency and it should be more economical than building a new and better system. Like in the car system, the lift of the lens is the magical effect.
The person who thought they sounded the same as BeoLab 5 must be deaf!
I thought they sounded amazing - and I listen to BeoLab 5 every day at home...
Design wise, at the time I said they'd not be what you were possibly expecting - but I like them.
PS : The model name appears to be Denmark's worst kept secret, then
9 LEE: PS : The model name appears to be Denmark's worst kept secret, then
Dealers have seen them and told all their customers, Lee!
Anything but photos. That's the deal.
We we even can show pics around but can't share.
Don't get too excited... sound wise ok.
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
BAND'OH!: Don't get too excited... sound wise ok.
Have you heard them, in person?
9 LEE: BAND'OH!: Don't get too excited... sound wise ok. Have you heard them, in person?
I haven't Lee no. However, based on conversations I have had regarding some designs I have in mind going forward about new upcoming products including the OLED tv the general consensus seems to be to stick with second hand BL5s (which is not an option dues to their size) and to just stick with current OLED panels regardless of manufacturer. So that's what I am likely to pursue although I will wait to see the tv particularly in person before going ahead with any build etc. Simon.
9 LEE:Have you heard them, in person?
BAND'OH!: 9 LEE: BAND'OH!: Don't get too excited... sound wise ok. Have you heard them, in person? I haven't Lee no.
I haven't Lee no.
MAN'OH'MAN ;-(
It does sound pessimistic I know, but given that the last few years have been nothing but disappointment followed by disappointment, I am honestly inclined to go on what I have heard. Other users of this forum have also made reference to dealers they have spoken to regarding upcoming products which have been seen. I am grateful for the honesty to be frank. Look at all the problems with current products, I mean seriously, if you were are a customer would you honestly buy into the brand still? I understand that people/companies/dealers/franchisees (etc) want to fight their corner as their business is on the line, but that's not an honest reflection of B&O in 2017. Simon.
w5bno123: 9 LEE: Have you heard them, in person? How can you form an opinion on something you've not even seen or heard??? I've had the privilege to see and hear a pre launch pair and they blow the BeoLab 5's out of the water. These are not a direct replacement for the 5's, they are a spin off from the BL90's. I can't wait to get them in-store.
9 LEE: Have you heard them, in person?
How can you form an opinion on something you've not even seen or heard??? I've had the privilege to see and hear a pre launch pair and they blow the BeoLab 5's out of the water. These are not a direct replacement for the 5's, they are a spin off from the BL90's. I can't wait to get them in-store.
We will see won't we.
BAND'OH!:It does sound pessimistic I know, but given that the last few years have been nothing but disappointment followed by disappointment, I am honestly inclined to go on what I have heard. Other users of this forum have also made reference to dealers they have spoken to regarding upcoming products which have been seen. I am grateful for the honesty to be frank. Look at all the problems with current products, I mean seriously, if you were are a customer would you honestly buy into the brand still? I understand that people/companies/dealers/franchisees (etc) want to fight their corner as their business is on the line, but that's not an honest reflection of B&O in 2017. Simon.
We should write our reviews like this - would be so much easier! We could tell manufacturers not to bother sending equipment for us to test and a) write our opinion based on heresy and and b) non-fact.
Ideal.
I have heard them in person, and they are absolutely superb. The BeoLab 5's are truly excellent, but the 50's are a BL90-'lite' if you will, rather than a BL5-'turbo'.....
If I had the spare money, I'd buy a pair at launch. They are that good.
AngloApulian:Does anyone have any idea on what the pricing for these will be?
w5bno123: Circa £23,000 GBP
Circa £23,000 GBP
I think it was initially £22,000 GBP, but the '£' is so feeble I think it'll be just over £24,000.
Once you hear them though, you'll think they're actually fairly priced!
moxxey: We should write our reviews like this - would be so much easier! We could tell manufacturers not to bother sending equipment for us to test and a) write our opinion based on heresy and and b) non-fact. Ideal.
Sadly most reviews nowadays are written like that! Many reviews just wrap some text around the official manufacturers specifications and call this "review". I can understand the pessimistic view a little bit regarding recent products and their faults / problems / ugly design / missing reliability from our beloved B & O. BUT there's only possible speculation and absolutely no basis for reviewing/judging if you didn't see / hear / touch a new and even not released product in person. Let's just calm down and be surprised what kind of product we will see in August. As always: I guess we'll have enough room for discussion as soon as we see the Beolab 50 and even after listening to them. So, come on:
That is a fair viewpoint. I will wait and see what they sound like at release. Simon.
BAND'OH!: That is a fair viewpoint. I will wait and see what they sound like at release. Simon.
.... and if you say they're poor, I will officially register you with the UK hard of hearing council. ;O)
LOL OK Lee fair comment. I don't mean to be negative but I really want to buy into B&O; this is a brand I've always loved, been passionate about and supported for many of my adult years; just feel so disappointed though of late. I hope the BL50s are as good as you say but particularly the new OLED tv because those are what I want to install. Cheers, Simon :)
TWG: Sadly most reviews nowadays are written like that! Many reviews just wrap some text around the official manufacturers specifications and call this "review".
Sadly most reviews nowadays are written like that! Many reviews just wrap some text around the official manufacturers specifications and call this "review".
Sort of - proper hands on reviews aren't written like that TWG. But, you do get news sites add "review" to the headline as they want to high up on Goolge - the sooner you can get a "review" written and people often search for "review" on Google, the higher you're likely to be up on the front page. Sadly that's just exploitation to try and beat the system.
But, I think most people here can read the difference between a proper review and a news piece where the journalist has attended a launch party or similar.
Was just checking out the new software version of my BV14 when this caught my eye...
kuyttendaele:Was just checking out the new software version of my BV14 when this caught my eye...
Well spottet, kuyttendaele ;-)
Time will tell, won't it!
In approx 8 weeks we will know.
9 LEE is enthusiastic - he has actually heard them.
Perfect rear speakers for the BL50 owners