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Hi everyone,
I have a question: I own a Beogram 2000 and have recently bought a Beomaster 1100 thinking that they would be compatible. However, the plugs are not compatible. Does anyone know about B&O adapters, if there exists anything I can get to make the two compatible?
Thanks! (and sorry for my ignorance: I am new to Beoworld...)
Welcome to Beoworld.
What output cable is on the Beogram 2000 and which beogram 2000 is it - there were 2? Is it 5 pin DIN or RCA? There shouldn't be a problem unless someone has done some cable swapping.
Dave.
Dave, thanks for writing.The Beogram 2000 is a Type 5821. Its output cable has 7 pins, while the Beomaster only has 5. I'm not sure what they are called, but I have attached a picture that shows them. Does this help you? Please let me know if you have any suggestions!!
-James
Just unscrew the 6 and 7 pins - these are for the remote control - which the beomaster does not have! Keep them safe by sellotaping them to the lead - you might want them again some day!
Peter
Peter beat me to it. Unscrew the two slotted screw type pins (at the top of your picture). Put them in a small ziplock bag and keep them. If you don't need them again , someone else will. They are tricky to find if you lose them.
Enjoy your system.
Thanks, you're brilliant! I would never have found that out by myself. Now as to my next question in trying to set up a working stereo system... I have two speakers which are not B&O. Are they in any way compatible with my Beomaster 1100? I have attached a picture of the outlets of both Beomaster and my speakers. I do not have any speaker cables. Is there a type of speaker cable that would work for this, or do I need B&O speakers?
jamesdo: Thanks, you're brilliant! I would never have found that out by myself. Now as to my next question in trying to set up a working stereo system... I have two speakers which are not B&O. Are they in any way compatible with my Beomaster 1100? I have attached a picture of the outlets of both Beomaster and my speakers. I do not have any speaker cables. Is there a type of speaker cable that would work for this, or do I need B&O speakers?
You keep coming back to ask more and learn so that's great - just what we want!
Now, I think you know what I'm going to say - if you have the all of the components for a Beosystem 1100 (we won't count the tape deck at the moment), why not go the whole hog and buy a nice pair of matching B&O Beovox 1000 speakers like these:
http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=432 They come up on eBay regularly, for example (they are not mine by the way):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bang-Olufsen-Beovox-1000-Main-Stereo-Speakers-/321526611178?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4adc7abcea
Then all you need are a pair of speaker cables with DIN connectors like these:
http://soundsheavenly.com/beovox-passive-unpowered-loudspeakers/24--beovoxcx-.html and I suggest buying them from Steve at Sounds Heavenly at the bottom of the Beoworld pages as he makes quality cables (free shipping too).
You need cables/connectors like these if you want to use your current speakers, you just cut off the end that isn't plugged into the Beomaster 1100. You should make sure that they are 'in-phase'. You will see that one of the 2 wires making up the cable has a grey stripe on it - that's the positive (+ve) wire. From memory and I usually get these the wrong way round, the positive section of the plug is the 'pin' and the negative wire is the 'tongue' or larger, blade shaped part. So long as you connect the cables to the speakers the same way you should be OK. Otherwise, if they are out of phase you may lose some stereo separation. The explanation is here:
http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-18842,00.html
It will also depend on what speakers you have that you think you want to use. What is the power handling capacity and peak power (watts) and what impedence (ohms) are your speakers and what are they? There should be a label on the back. The amp can produce Music power 2 x 40 W / 4 ohms , 2 x 25 W / 8 ohms . Speaker impedance 4 ohms.
You can also make the speaker cables yourself, you will need 2 pcs. 2 pin DIN connectors to the Beomaster, and your speakers connects to the stripped wires, 2 Pin Din connectors like these connect the red terminal to the round pin, and the black terminal to the "blade" pin
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Or buy them pre-made here.
Thanks everyone. Again this was very helpful. Following your advice, I bought two DIN connectors and managed to hook up my system. At one point I will definitely get B&O speakers, but first I wanted to see how/if everything works. The sound is great now for the Beomaster 1100 radio and the Beocord 2000 I had. However, for my Beogram 2000, the sound is very low and seems only to come from one speaker at a time. As the sound works for the radio and cassette player, I am thinking that the problem must be either the phono connection on the Beomaster or the Beogram itself. This may be a problem that cannot be solved by an online forum, but any advice would be appreciated.
Maybe a problem with the cartridge or the connections to the tonearm. If you remove the cartridge, try cleaning the pin contacts with some Deoxit and try again. If you can find one, try another cartridge.
Try the Beogram in the Tape socket.
Two thoughts:
1. I don't think it did, but check there is not a switch on the bottom side of the Beomaster with low and high impedance on it - some of the older Beomasters had such a switch so you could use a crystal pick up. I think this is unlikely but worth looking! If there is one, it should be set to Lo.
2. Check the DIN plug - these regularly get pulled out by the wire and you get loose contacts inside the plug!
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I will have to fiddle a little with the cartridge when I have time (both your suggestions that I try the tape socket and that I find a high/low switch were good, but unfortunately not the solution). In the meantime I'm enjoying the tape player!