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This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
The latest update for the BSys4-based BV's brought 'Spotify' as new entry in the source-menu.
This was immidiately noticed and most people were thrilled by the new way to get to Spotify.
But it also brought 'Youtube' as menu entry - and noone noticed it - or at least wrote about it on the forum.
One of my friends told me that he had troubles to get this new way of 'reaching' Youtube to work.
Recently I do not have the opportunity to test it myself, but....
...we learned that - if the BV is NOT in power saving mode - you now can 'wake' it from within the new Youtube app (Android and now also the iOS) by just clicking the small 'TV' button in the app.
The function is called 'Send to TV' and works with DLNA-enabled devices - amongst them officially now also the B&O tv's.
Look here for further info of the function:
http://www.starkinsider.com/2013/02/how-to-stream-youtube-videos-using-an-iphone-ipad.html
But here comes the 'troubles':
The tv turns on and you can hear sound - but the picture won't follow.
If you start with the tv turned on - using another source - it works ok (it changes the input-port)!
If you push 'Youtube' from List (or to whatever you assigned it) - it works well too (with tv turned on to any other source)!
Another guy had the same experience.
Did anyone notice this issue?
Would be nice to have more people testing it.
If with the same results, it could/would then be reported as a 'bug'.
Overall - whether you would like to use this new function, depends on your preferences, I think.
Those with an ATV and the iPad probably will continue using AirPlay.
But I am sure the 'Androids' amongst the BV-owners will welcome it.
Anyway - I find it great that B&O makes this possible.
So keep on rocking - probably there is more to come for the new BV's.
Greetings Millemissen
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: But here comes the 'troubles': The tv turns on and you can hear sound - but the picture won't follow.
Funny you should mention this.
Since the latest BV11 software update, my Apple TV does the same thing. Switch the Apple TV, I can hear sound, but the picture remains solid black. I can even stream audio to the Apple TV and hear it via the BV11, listen to Beo4 navigation noises, but still no picture.
Occasionally you can get a picture, but then when you play something through the Apple TV, the picture goes black again after 3 minutes and never comes back. Only way to get a picture again is to unplug the Apple TV and let it restart!
Same thing happens with the BV11 YouTube video. I streamed a video from the iPad the other day, worked perfectly.....for 3 minutes. Picture went black and I couldn't get it back!
Anyone else had similar issues? I've reported it to my dealer.
Hi MartinW,
sorry to ask more, but...
....does the BV11 turn on from standby, when you push the little 'TV'-icon in the Youtube app?
Hi moxxey,
the Youtube-thing is based on DLNA,
and the ATV is - as you know - AirPlay.
Could you explain a bit more, what happens with AirPlay?
I - too - have had videos from webpages that give 'only sound'.
Some do - others don't.
I have a BV8-40 - so no issue coming from the BV since it can't be updated like yours.
I assume that, what you experienced is a problem coming from the ATV/iOS/AirPlay, since the ATV is just a source connected through HDMI.
The Youtube video you mentioned, was that AirPlayed - or was it streamed/initiated through the 'Play to TV' function in the Youtube app?
Don't know whether this is a related problem, but.......
I often listen to radioparadise.com via a Roku type unit and a Beomaster. I decided to try listening via the BV11 for a change so that the related slideshow put out by RP could be viewed at the same time. Connected OK via web media and the internet on the menu page, but then found there was no sound on hitting the 'Play' button on the RP homepage. Then clicked on the slideshow button and got the superb slides showing OK, but still no sound. Just to be sure, then tried all the bit rates available; still no sound.
Then rang my dealer who tried logging onto RP with his BV11, and he had the same problem..... no sound. I left the problem with the dealer for further investigation. TV works fine with YouTube as far as I can tell, but that's with accessing YouTube via the internet/ webpage address.
So I currently access RP via my Beomaster and view the slides on a silent BV11.
Graham
Hi Graham,
I don't think that is related.
As I understand, what you described (please correct if false) you have used the webbrowser of the BV to go to the RP-side.
Have you any idea which codecs is used for the sound?
Could be that the BV-browser doesn't support the one used.
Where I am at is how/how well the new Youtube 'Play to TV' function is implemented in the BV's - and if it is possible to 'wake up' the BV for immidiate playback of Youtube?
Millemissen: and the ATV is - as you know - AirPlay. Could you explain a bit more, what happens with AirPlay?
No, it's connected via HDMI. Black screen, via HDMI.
Millemissen: Hi Graham, I don't think that is related. As I understand, what you described (please correct if false) you have used the webbrowser of the BV to go to the RP-side. Have you any idea which codecs is used for the sound? Could be that the BV-browser doesn't support the one used. Where I am at is how/how well the new Youtube 'Play to TV' function is implemented in the BV's - and if it is possible to 'wake up' the BV for immidiate playback of Youtube? Greetings Millemissen
Thanks MM.
i will dig around on the RP site where they give a range of bitrates and also recommend players:
Windows: WinAmpMacOS X (or 9): iTunesLinux/Unix: XMMSLinux KDE Desktop: amaroKMultiple Platforms (incl. Linux & Mac): VLC
The site just runs fine on both the Roku unit and on an iPad docked with a BS8.
MM. To your post:.
"...we learned that - if the BV is NOT in power saving mode - you now can 'wake' it from within the new Youtube app (Android and now also the iOS) by just clicking the small 'TV' button in the app."
I could not replicate that. The little tv on the YOUTUBE app "saw" the BV11 but did not start from standby.
"If you start with the tv turned on - using another source - it works ok (it changes the input-port)!"
I assigned YOUTUBE to the hard button VMEM and it started the TV from standby, but had to hit VMEM twice. Would not start from the iPad app that way, and would not start from the YOUTUBE soft button.
"Those with an ATV and the iPad probably will continue using AirPlay."
Better YOUTUBE picture using the BV11 app vs airplay
Interesting that when I use Spotify on 5.1 and the MUSIC sound profile, it creates a simulated surround, that is, the sound that would come from the center channel does not play on the rear speakers. Sounds very nice, and I didn't notice it until following this thread.
I never had the blackout screen problem with apple tv until I did the atv software update that came with new mac OS. Then got another atv update a few days later and the problem went away.
I don't know if I would call those bugs as much as quirks. For me, everything works best with a Beo4.
no, you need no account for that.
Of cource the 'little TV box" goes away, when you turn out the tv - the app can't 'see' the player anymore.
But, you should not have to pair them again - once paired and it should work.
Only case I can see the need for new pairing is, if the BV has got a new ip-adress.
Do try again.
MM
Hi symmes,
thanks for your respond.
I'll wait with further posting untill - perhaps - we see some more comments/experiences.
Just this:
" I don't know if I would call those bugs as much as quirks. For me, everything works best with a Beo4."
This may be right for you - but for others maybe not.
The essence is - if B&O offers us this feature, it should work, and work properly!
Is this for real?
No one else uses/tried the Youtube-'Play to TV'-function on their V1/BV11...?
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@Chris:
Not sure I get what you mean, but...
'sound-mute' is as ever a push in the middle of the vol-button (but I assume that you know that).
'P-Mute' is in the List - at least it should be nowadays (updating the firmware of the Beo4 might be needed).
As far as the YouTube issue is concerned, I haven't 'Paired' any iPads or other devices with the TV.
With normal operation my TV needs to be switched on via the Beo4 or I get a message on the iPad Beoremote 'Product not found'
Once the TV is on via the beo4 then the direct YouTube control from the iPad works fine.
I have various sound settings on the 11-46. They are numbered 1-7 but i just know them as crap-less crap. I want to select the music(less crap setting) but cannot do this on the Beo4.
If i press list it just has "stand". I want sound/p.mute as well in the list from the CD.
Hi vikinger,
thanks for your report.
Seems to be a bug here.
Switching on from standby doesn't work in your setup.
Others (on the DK forum) wrote that the BV is turned on - but then with the tuner activated.
Choosing the 'Play to TV' function (in the app) seems to switch the source/the input correct - only if the BV already is active.
Chris Townsend: If i press list it just has "stand". I want sound/p.mute as well in the list from the CD.
Hi Chris,
what effect should 'sound/p.mute' have???
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On older Beo4 versions it was not possible to have a 'video command' (such as 'P.Mute') in the List of an audio source (e.g. CD).
This has changed in later SW versions.
Millemissen: Is this for real? No one else uses/tried the Youtube-'Play to TV'-function on their V1/BV11...? MM
I have, just now, and it's ace. It's easier to use than YouTube via AirPlay.
Open a video on your iPad (or iPhone), click the 'send to TV' button and it will start playing on the BV11. Works perfectly and I tried various videos. One small issue for me was that the TV should go back to the original TV programme after you turn off 'send to TV'. It shouldn't stay in WebMedia mode.
Thanks moxxey,
did you try to let the app turn on/wake up your BV?
Would be nice if that works - easier for Mrs Millemis to use
Millemissen: Thanks moxxey, did you try to let the app turn on/wake up your BV?
No, that doesn't and won't work. The BV has to be on for the app to find the TV on the network. When it's on standby, there's no option in YouTube to play on the BV.
moxxey: Millemissen: Thanks moxxey, did you try to let the app turn on/wake up your BV? No, that doesn't and won't work. The BV has to be on for the app to find the TV on the network. When it's on standby, there's no option in YouTube to play on the BV.
Moxxey,
See my post on WLAN-ON for BV11.
Millemissen: Hi vikinger, thanks for your report. Seems to be a bug here. Switching on from standby doesn't work in your setup. Others (on the DK forum) wrote that the BV is turned on - but then with the tuner activated. Choosing the 'Play to TV' function (in the app) seems to switch the source/the input correct - only if the BV already is active. Greetings Millemissen
Hi MM,
Resolved by switching WLAN-ON in the POWERSAVE network settings. Haven't tried YouTube on start-up.
Have anyone been able to log in to Youtube as per the instruction in the Youtube App on the BV11?
It says that I shall enter a code at youtube.com/activate
But that address takes you nowhere.
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