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Beovision 11 advanced sound settings

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thorne Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2015 4:51 PM

i have 2 x 6000s at the front, 2 x 6000s at the front, a Beolab 2 subwoofer and the central speakers on the 11.  Would it be worth tinkering with bass management and/or subwoofer settings in advanced settings?  And if so, any recommendations?

 

I should point out, I am no tech expert!!

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Sal replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 5:57 PM

Based on everything I've read on these forums, if you've told your BV11 that you've got a BL2, then it knows to send all those low frequencies to the BL2. I wouldn't tinker with it at all, especially with speakers like the 6000s as your FLR and RLR. 

I trust the beosystem 4 in the BV 11 to know what it's doing with bass management in that regard.

Just curious, why do you want to tinker with it, does it not sound right to you?

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thorne:

i have 2 x 6000s at the front, 2 x 6000s at the front, a Beolab 2 subwoofer and the central speakers on the 11.  Would it be worth tinkering with bass management and/or subwoofer settings in advanced settings?  And if so, any recommendations?

I should point out, I am no tech expert!!

Hi,

The answer is "maybe". The Subwoofer parameters and the automatic parameters that the BV11 assigns for the Bass Management menus can't know anything about the particular impact of your room's behaviour or your specific loudspeaker placement.

However, the question of exactly what to do in order to compensate for these issues is impossible to predict. If you have a specific problem that you're trying to fix, the I might be able to make some suggestions.

The one thing that I might suggest is that, if you never push your system very loudly, you might hear a difference by pushing the Bass Management crossover frequency lower (say, to something like 80 Hz or so). However, if you do occasionally turn up the volume - particularly with movies, then this will not be a good idea, since it will probably result in a dip in your overall magnitude response in the 80-120 Hz band.

You could try listening to bass-managed pop music and playing with the Subwoofer ALLPASS frequency to find out if this has any impact on the "punch" of the sound. To start with, make big changes to this (say, switching directly from BYPASS to 300 Hz) to learn the effect of this. Once you're able to focus on the difference is makes, then you can start making the jumps in frequency smaller. Then again, depending on your system configuration, this may make no difference at all - so don't go crazy looking for something that might not be there.

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Sal replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 8:44 PM

Geoff Martin:

The answer is "maybe". The Subwoofer parameters and the automatic parameters that the BV11 assigns for the Bass Management menus can't know anything about the particular impact of your room's behaviour or your specific loudspeaker placement.

However, the question of exactly what to do in order to compensate for these issues is impossible to predict.

The next B&O venture: home design. B&O contractors and builders who not only come to install your equipment, but will alter your room in order to make your equipment sound the best it can. Alter walls, materials, angles, etc. Stick out tongue

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thorne replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 10:18 PM

Thanks Geoff and Sal for your useful replies.  No I haven't noticed anything wrong, but equally I don't know whether the system could sound better with some tweaking in the advanced menu

 

i used to have  beovision 7-40 without these sophisticated adjustments and the bass from the Beolab 2 was certainly more pronounced

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Dave Farr replied on Fri, Mar 27 2015 9:00 AM

With the BV7 (certainly on the BV7-55 so I assume the 40 also) you can adjust the level of the BL2 up and down and it does make a lot of difference if yoiu turn the level up just a small amount.  It's simply done in the sounds option and adjusting the level.  Is it not that simple on the BV11?  It seems from your last comment that you are lacking bass in your set-up and would like a bit more.

There are up to 9 speaker group/sound setting options for your BV11 - do you have the user manual?

Is there something you don't really understand for the settings (set-up menu) or the use of the menu options?  I'm not a techy kind of person either and it took me a while to sort my BV7-55 out but once you get the hang of it, it's really easy and quite intuitive.  If you get to the sound menu OK, just make a note of all of the current setings so if you alter anything and don't like it, you can revert back to the original settings.

Dave.

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Sal replied on Fri, Mar 27 2015 3:04 PM

The beauty of the Beosystem 4 based TV's is that you can play around with the adjustments all you want without fear because there's a "reset to defaults" menu option. And Dave also brings up a fair point, you can create a specific speaker group to experiment with as well, or several groups where you can try settings back and forth for a period of time. Lots of options to you.

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thorne replied on Sat, Mar 28 2015 12:21 AM

Thanks again for further comments. In fact I set up various speaker groups following the xcellent instructions in Geoff Martin's Technical Gude using a sound meter

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elephant replied on Sun, Mar 29 2015 7:41 AM
Sal:

The next B&O venture: home design. B&O contractors and builders who not only come to install your equipment, but will alter your room in order to make your equipment sound the best it can. Alter walls, materials, angles, etc.

Yes we could live in the cube - and have the crane move us to the best listening position.

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