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Hello Beofriends
I need your help.
I have a Beovision 7 MK4 that I have the option to upgrade and really dont know what to do.
I can go for a 7-55 MK2 wih Bluray, table stand and 7-6 speaker or
a Beovision 12-65 with Beosystem three.
Both allow we to keep my cinema control and both are 3D.
Both TV's look amazing.
Please can you send me some thoughts as historically my BV7 has been the flag ship of my living room which demands attention when in the room and the 7-55 would do this also, also plasma has always had a bit of a negative feedback. the 12-65 would give me Netlink and on screen beolink gateway displays etc.
Any feedback would be great
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Excellent choice of Beovisions imo.
The choice is down to space and location. Have you a wall big enough to take the 12-65 without it dominating the room ?
Get both !
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Hi Seanie,
a BV12-65 with BSys3 has no netlink (I suppose, that you mean NL - the successor of ML).
The 12-65, however would be my favorite.
By rhe way - if it now is with a BSys3, you can easily exchange that with a BSys4 later, if you would want to.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen:Hi Seanie, a BV12-65 with BSys3 has no netlink (I suppose, that you mean NL - the successor of ML).
For my taste 12-65 has better picture quality but it's too large. That doesn't mean 7-55 is not good enough. 7-55 has a warm picture against sharp 12-65 picture.
I have an Avant and distance to TV is 4,5 meter which is not small. I say 55" is the limit for me.
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Seanie_230:Hi there Great reads thank you If the 12-65 has NL does it mean it still supports my Beolink devices? If I moved to BSys4 I would loose my SD distribution to my link rooms.
Great reads thank you
If the 12-65 has NL does it mean it still supports my Beolink devices?
If I moved to BSys4 I would loose my SD distribution to my link rooms.
If the 12-65 is NL, it supports your BeoLink (you do mean the MasterLink-BeoLink, I suppose) devices, but only with the help of the NL/ML Converter.
Yes - in that case you will loose the SD distribution --- but how much you will you need that in the future?
Your biggest concern, however will be the loss of the built-in cinema support.
For cinema support from a BSys4 you will need extra hardware (and software installed to the system).
Seems that you - if you go for that 12-65 - will have to choose between a futureproof system and one (the BV7-55), that you just swap in instead of your recent BV7.
Both will be an improvement - so it is hard to say, which one you should pick.
Chris Townsend:Some love the 7-4 and I bow to their superior technical knowledge, but again it's all down to personal tastes. I could never turn the 7-4 up enough when connected to our 8-6000's, making voices hard to hear!
Chris, I'm amazed at this as I had exactly the opposite problem where voices were too dominant via the 7.4, which in reality, is what it's designed for and supposed to do. I've adjusted the speaker settings so now we are all very happy with it and it's much more balanced.
Dave.
Chris Townsend:I did ask at the time, and was told it couldn't be adjusted. I wanted it 30% louder to make speech more audible.
You may not be able to adjust the 7.4 up, but then I'd try turning the others down and then just increase the volume overall to compensate. I can't believe that B&O have made a system that you cannot adjust the sound on! Do you use AST? Is it on that TV?
If 55" inch is enough I would go for the Beovision 7 because it still has some of the B&O mechanical magic like the motorised stand that can be turned and tilted as well as the very nice disc mechanism with the LED lights.
TWG: If 55" inch is enough I would go for the Beovision 7 because it still has some of the B&O mechanical magic like the motorised stand that can be turned and tilted as well as the very nice disc mechanism with the LED lights.
Would agree with TGW. Also, I could imagine that future serviceability may be more secure with BV7 due to its selling volume vs BV Plasma (just an assumption). Sharpness of picture in comparison should not be an issue with majority of stations in HD mode.
Good choice. I'm thrilled with mine.
Lifestyle AV have 5 BV7-55 motorised stands, short and tall at massive reductions compared to new. This is the cheaper of them:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bang-Olufsen-B-O-BeoVision-7-55-Low-Motor-Floor-Stand-/321669407610?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae4fda37a
What speakers will you be connecting?
OK, it will be ineteresting to see how it all performs. I have BL3's as rears, BL8000's as fronts and a BL2 but have just bought a pair of BL9's to replace the BL8000's but will wait to see if I retain the BL2 for film use as others have done, or remove it to use elsewhere.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the BV7-55. Beware, it is very heavy and difficult to get on the stand unless you have plenty of help.
Dave Farr:OK, it will be ineteresting to see how it all performs. I have BL3's as rears, BL8000's as fronts and a BL2 but have just bought a pair of BL9's to replace the BL8000's but will wait to see if I retain the BL2 for film use as others have done, or remove it to use elsewhere. I'm sure you'll enjoy the BV7-55. Beware, it is very heavy and difficult to get on the stand unless you have plenty of help. Dave.
Good choice on 7-55 tv. Both considerations as a replacement would have been perfect either way so you could not have made a wrong choice. I like the plasma 12-65 but it is too big for me. I bought the 7-55 but on installation discovered that was too big too, so changed to a BV9 instead which I have been very happy with. The blacks are more of a dark grey and noticeable with some content. So for me my choice was not based on best picture quality but more the tv that ticked all the boxes the best. In the short time I had the 7-55 the picture, as I remember, was impressive, and that was the Mark 1, so I think you will be extremely happy with the Mark 2. Enjoy!
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
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leosgonewild:With the BV7-55 I would go for the 7-6. I love the look of my BV7-40 with 7-4, but I think it would look to "slim" with the 55.
With a good selection of surround speakers, the 7.4 excels with voices - especially when they are quiet. For films and TV this is fantastic and with the other speakers, you don't need stereo from the centre speaker. If it's standalone with no surround speakers, I would not use the 7.4 but would do as Leo says and go for the 7.6.
This is my 7-55 with a 7.4 on the tall stand:
leosgonewild:That doesn't look as "slim" as I thought it would, Dave. The audio quality of the 7.4 is amazing.
The picture is taken at an odd angle. I actually for aesthetic reasons nearly bought a BL10 to replace the 7.4 but decided against it (for now). The sound quality is incredible from the 7.4 - very clear, clean sound and as I say, for vocals it's possibly unbeatable. However, I found that it dominated until I had a serious play with the settings for speakers. Initially, all I could hear was the 7.4 and it overwhelmed the BL8000's and BL3's.
I've now got some BL9's on the way to replace the BL8000's so I'll see how they perform as fronts.
I use mine with pentas as front and rear. I had the same problem. Took a while to find the right sound settnings, but after that it was all good.
But you say it is an odd angle.. Are you saying that the 7.4 is too narrow for the 7-55?
Great pick - I would have done the same, taken the 7-55 over the 12-65.
To me, the grey tint of the 12-65 (even when turned off) prevent it from achieving the same black levels as the 7-55. This would be the main thing I would check out with these two sets, to see what your eyes tell you with respect to picture quality.
For the 7-55, the low floor stand with the 7-6 turn it into a single uniform piece of art - simply a design classic and perhaps the best looking tv from Struer ever IMHO.
Roger
leosgonewild:But you say it is an odd angle.. Are you saying that the 7.4 is too narrow for the 7-55?
No, not really. The 7.4 looks a bit fatter/wider as you see the depth of it in this picture but from front on you just see the speaker grill full in the face. On the tall stand, I think it may look 'top heavy' with a BL7.6. Fantastic on the lower stand though I expect. When we watch the TV, we don't notice the speaker underneath anyway. One of the reasons I considered the BL10 was to hide cables a bit more - I haven't tidied cables yet as I'm building a couple of units in Oak to go either side to house DVD's, cables etc.
Seanie_230:My TV deal fell through so I need to find a 7-55 now
There are indeed a few on eBay from other resellers which are on there right now. Have a look at them.
I don't know of any official dealers that have any though. Possibly B&O Wilmslow if I remember, but that was a few weeks ago.
Personally, I've picked up three of them in the last 5 days, but haven't had chance to fully test and clean them (plus our software update guy isn't coming until next week) so they're not on the website, and won't be for at least 4-5 days.
The 7-55 is an amazing TV. I have one myself at home and no matter how hard I try I can't find anything which comes close. It's a shame your deal fell through but I'm sure you'll get sorted!
Lee
Hope you find a good 7-55 Seanie!!