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8002 vs lab 3's.
8002's better!
Had 5 people saying this last night, speakers were next to each other, doing comparisons.
The lab 3's have a nice crisp sound, but........................ No grunt, maybe with a sub??
A few years ago we did a speaker comparison of almost all the speakers available - the 8000s did seem better than the 3s then as well!
Peter
Some people speak of the 8000's as 'crap', or paper speakers in a drainpipe.
I think they sound very detailed especially with classic music ('midrange?), while the 3's sound more transparant and with your eyes closed it's more difficult to localize the 3's than the 8000's.
The 3's are, to my ears, very good (better than the 8000's?) for jazz music (saxophone) or pop. Adding a sub makes the 3's a lot better though, but perhaps that's also the case for the 8000's.
Never a fan of the lab3 and would be more in favour of the 8000's given the choice but both would benefit with a sub.
jc: Some people speak of the 8000's as 'crap', or paper speakers in a drainpipe. I think they sound very detailed especially with classic music ('midrange?), while the 3's sound more transparant and with your eyes closed it's more difficult to localize the 3's than the 8000's. The 3's are, to my ears, very good (better than the 8000's?) for jazz music (saxophone) or pop. Adding a sub makes the 3's a lot better though, but perhaps that's also the case for the 8000's.
I haven't heard the 3s in quite a while but I remember being impressed with them, especially for the size! But I have a pair of 8000s that I've lived with since 1997 and when setup properly in my old living room (which fortunately had a lot of bass lift which helped the 8000s handle the bottom end) I found them amazing on about all kinds of music except hard rock. The midrange is where they truly excelled, vocals were amazing, most pop and classical and jazz worked very well on them. They just disappeared too, sounded almost like planar speakers except the depth was not as exaggerated as planars can produce. I moved, and the huge living room made them sound kind of lost, so I moved them to the dining room as more background sound speakers (they look and sound stunning in there) and upgraded to BL9s for the living room.
They really need a sub for true full range duty, rock and organ and such, but you need a sub that filters out the lows from the 8000s, like the BL2 or BL11. The 19 seems a good device from what I heard when I listened, but unless you use the wireless tranmitter and such there's no high pass filter for the 8000s and it becomes a bit trickier to mate the two.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Has anyone seen any magazine reviews for this speaker?
I see that the B & O website gives a -10 dB frequency of 50 Hz. Does anyone know what the -3 dB frequency is?
D