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Hi there
First, I did not know which subforum to take... so the administrator are kindly asked to move it accordingly.
A long-lived dream came true for me when I received 4 used Beolab 8000s two weeks ago. I knew that combining it with my pioneer TV and pioneer AVR won't be ideal but possible. Since my AVR has pre-out only for the sub, I had to get power reducers and connection adapters from line-in on the beolabs to the AVR sockets for passive loudspeakers... I called a couple of B&O stores to get an opinion on this cheep solution. A few said they never heard of it, other said it is a low quality work around and others said they use this regularly and never had any problems.
What to make of that? Well, I though let's try the power reducers since it is cheap. And if it does the trick, all is good. Not quite though... I had this solutions for the front pair of the beolab 8000s (waiting for the cables for the other pair). I was listening music from my imac connected by HDMI to my pioneer AVR (VSX-924). It seemed all fine. Watching TV was also ok, apart from the fact that in Sourround mode the speakers switch off when there is quiet dialog. I read about the trigger issue... BUT suddenly, the speakers were sounding bad when listening to some Jazz from the iTunes store and also when picking some internet radio stations...!? when rattleing the cable a little it cracked very loud but did not change a thing re sound quality.
When watching TV again, the sound was fine! I am confused... Since I am not a technician but office clerk.... Either the speakers are bust in some frequency areas or the cabling is a crappy solution. Maybe the way the sound signal gets transferred by HDMI from the mac is causing it?
Do you guys think it wud be wise for me to invest in a new AVR with Multichannel pre-outs? Preferably from Pioneer, for instance SC-LX76. then use decent RCA cables with the trigger function. But i dont want to spend a 1000 euros on that stuff when it does not do any good. The reason I want to stay with pioneer is obviously that i can control TV and AVR with one remote.
Thanks for your insight!
Bicki
well.... I have to confess I am a little disappointed not getting any help. Have I entered a closed B&O community, where people like me with non-B&O stuff are not welcomed?
Anyway, today I changed the speakers and used the ones I had not yet connected. The (bad) sound was the same. So it is very unlikely the speakers are the problem. Either the AVR or the cable adapter thingy, or it might be a combination of these two. I will get the AVR with multichannel pre-outs tomorrow, as I can bring it back in case it does not do the trick.
Still interested in your insight folks :)
greets
bicki
The easy answer would be to get a receiver with pre outs and use the line in on the speakers, ensuring that you have set the switch in the speakers to LINE IN before you start playing anything, that way you can use the volume control from the receiver to control the volume on the speakers. As for the cable adapters, I can't help you there.
Sounds Heavenly is an establishment with a lot of expertise on cables, and the like, look them up and ask them if they've heard of the connection(s) you were previously using. They're good people with expertise second to none.
I would recommend getting new receiver with full pre-out outputs and a 12v trigger and then trigger cables, e.g. from AV Connection in Denmark:
http://www.av-connection.dk/?ML=2126
I use this setup with a Yamaha receiver and the sound is great.
My B&O products: Beosound 9000, Beosound 2300, Beosound Century, Beolab 8000, Beolab 6000, Beolab 4000 x2, Beolab 3500, Beolab 2000, Beolab 10, Beolink Active x2, Beotime, Beo5 x2, Beo4, A9 keyring x2, LC2 dimmer x6 and growing....
Invest in a receiver with pre-outs. Don´t use work-arounds.
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
This not a very difficult exercise at all.
You simply want Preamp Outputs on an AVR which doesn't have them.
I have done this many times for customers, on these kinds of machines, although not on your exact machine.
You (or a trusted local technician) simply take some shielded dual coax cable and solder one end onto a suitable part of the PCB at the preamp outputs, then find an empty part of the rear panel to mount the RCA sockets, and solder the other end of the coax cable to the sockets.
This way, you're simply doing what the manufacturer forgot to do ;-)
No need for power reducers, or any fancy cables.
Menahem Yachad