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Beogram 6500 with Beomaster 5500 issues..

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jared1984
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jared1984 Posted: Tue, Jun 12 2012 10:30 PM

Hi all,

Bronze member and first post so please bear with me!

 

I am running a Beogram 6500 & Beogram cd 6500 through a Beomaster 5500 into Ruark sabre II with an MCP 5500.

Background

Im a music fan and collector and bought this set up as a solid all rounder as it ticked all the boxes in terms of both form and function. Im no whizz with electronics but am game for getting stuck in and will have a bash at fixing most things with a bit of guidance.

Isues

Im having issues with the whole thing really - in particular the MCP and the Beogram. I will list them in points and try and be as plain as possible (I have searched and searched to no avail) Really hope someone has had similar issues or if we can find a workthrough to help myself and others.

1 Beogram is playing mono only out of the right speaker - this does not occur when playing a CD.

2 when headphones are plugged in Sound comes out of the speakers also (mono if through the Beogram).

3 The mute button does not work when pressed directly on the amp or on the MPC.

4 the Beogram is producing very poor sound quality - distorting the lows and mega grainy even on clean vinyl.

 

My thinking is correct me if wrong...

I cannot use the full functions when using items from both the 5500 and 6500?

I have a cartridge or tonearm problem?

All 4 are not talking to each other in one way or another?

 

Hope this strikes a chord with you kind people!!! Any troubleshooting advice would be brill!!! If anyone knows anywhere within 50 miles of Manchester where I could get a service that would also be good and Im having a tweeter issue with the Ruarks so If anyone does freelance repairs in similar area let me know.

 

Thanks a million in advance people - I can answer any questions that may help

 

Jared

 

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Steffen replied on Tue, Jun 12 2012 10:55 PM

Hi Jared

The poor sound from the Beogram may come from the fact that the Beogram 6500 has a build in RIAA (pre-amplifier) -and so has the Phono input on the Beomaster 5500 -so you have 2 in a row.
The Beogram 5500 did not have RIAA build in.
Have you tried to plug the beogram into eg. the TAPE2/AUX input?
If the sound is still distorted, then it may be the cartridge.

The problem with sound in one channel only, may come from a broken connection in the DIN-plug.

Hope this was helpfull.

Steffen

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kallasr replied on Tue, Jun 12 2012 11:09 PM
Plug the speakers in the other speaker sockets, then mute should work...

Do you have the manuals? It should be explained there.

Ralf

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Sound on one channel only could be a broken cartridge!

Regards Graham

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jared1984 replied on Wed, Jun 13 2012 8:41 PM

Hi all,

 

Thanks for your rapid responses!!! 

Stefan - I tried TAPE, TAPE2/AUX but got no output out of either except for a random sporadic bleep on one of them?! When you say the 'connection in the din' do you mean din on the main units cable or the din in the cartridge?!

Ralf - You legend! I did as you said and hey presto... I have mute! I do have the manuals (somewhere)  but didnt check them - my bad! Thanks a million!

Now - interestingly I managed to significantly improve the sound quality by setting the cartridge weight to 1.5 (should be ok on an MMC2 shouldn't it?!) AND even got a very very slight murmur of the record in the speaker that was previously completely silent!? Does this tell me its a cleanup rather than a replace?! Does anyone know how I can get the cartridge off safely as the flimsy tonearm makes me cringe with fear whenever i even touch it!!! A good clean of all connections cant go a miss surely?!

 

Seriously - thanks a million for all your responses - clever people, keep up the good work!

joeyboygolf
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Stylus weight for an MMC2 should be 1.2g

I would say that the stylus/cartridge is knackered (in my experience they normally are if bought on eBay or similar). You need to replace it or get it refurbished if that is possible (suspect not possible as dead on at least one channel.

Cheapest option would be get yours refurbished here:-  www.schallplattennadeln.de  or if yours is knackered you can buy a refurbished one from the same place. Will cost you around 99Euros or thereabouts.

Once you have a decent starting point then you have a fighting chance of sorting the rest out.

Regards Graham

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Tape or tape2 is the only right connection. With beomaster and beogram both having a riaa inside. Try to remove the 6 & 7 pin from the din plug. You can screw them out. And select tape on the beomaster for playing thee beogram as wel. you have to start the beogram itself now.

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Steffen replied on Thu, Jun 14 2012 12:11 AM

jared1984:

Stefan - I tried TAPE, TAPE2/AUX but got no output out of either except for a random sporadic bleep on one of them?! When you say the 'connection in the din' do you mean din on the main units cable or the din in the cartridge?!

 

I meant the DIN that you plug into the receiver -it's quite common that one or two wires break inside the plug.
But when you explained that you did get sound in the other channel by increasing the cartridge weight -then (as others suggested) it's probably the cartridge that is the problem.

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