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vlohjr1:http://atlona.com/product/at-juno-451/ Wonder if anybody have any idea whether this may be compatible with bvs esp mki avant and can be controlled by single BeoRemote ? Thanks Vince
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vlohjr1:Hi Michael yes 2014 avant just thinking if I have 2 uhd sources Sky q and oppo 203? May be if atv has 4K in the future? Thanks Vince
It's unlikely anyone will know if this will be supported until it is actually released. Atlona have had this product shown as 'coming soon' for a while now...
The current solution for the scenario you describe is the use of a matrix, which has the advantage that it also splits the PUC control to each box too, but it's obviously not a cheap solution and could be described as somewhat overkill for a single beovision.
The neo matrix has been recommended by another beoworld member as working well with BeoVisions, although I've not tried it myself yet. It's pretty reasonably priced so might be a viable option too as it is probably not much more expensive than the atlona device above is likely to be sold for (although this is obviously guess work at the moment as nobody knows what the atlona switch will cost).
Martin.
If you have (or will be receiving) the UDP-203 from Oppo, and you have a streaming device capable of 4k, you can plug the HDMI out from the Oppo into the Avant HDMI 2.0 (input #1) and the streaming device into the Oppo's HDMI Input to effectively have two sources capable of 4K into your Avant via the Oppo player. Alternatively, the Altona switch will work for you. Check with your B&O dealer for the appropriate model and installation/usage.
vlohjr1:Thank you Michael yes I realise this but if you use the adapters you will be limited to capabilities to 1.4 rather than 2.0 i.e. 24 pfs in addition to other features I was also hoping for a uhd br player so that I can see 4K Netflix or Amazon prime as well? Just thoughts so that my mki can last longer..... Thanks Vince
Michael, HDMI 1.4 is not capable of outputting 60 FPS. Vince is correct that using the HDMI ports other than number one (which is HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2 capable) would be a 'downgrade'
I've got a Pulse Eight Neo, which seems to work pretty well from my 2-3 months spent with it......it works off Altona matrix codes, so should be effectively the same.....the Neo is fully 4K UHD capable i believe, and am running a 12-65 (main screen) and a BV14-55 (bedroom) off it......was quite a bit cheaper than the Altona option, though still not cheap......not passing through any 4K yet through the matrix, as multi room on my 4K BV14 hasnt been enabled yet, but in general seems to do its job well...........Pulse technical support are quite good at answering detailed questions......
Word of caution with matrices though, they run warm, and the internal fans will run pretty much all the time......especially 4k versions, which tend to all have internal fans, while some HD only matrices dont.......so i'd think about "lounge" conditions if putting a matrix there.....you will need to get conditions so its fan doesnt run at max speed (low / med speed is fine / manageable)....as they are noisy...which is OK with a source on, but the fans run even when the TV etc is switched off.......all do-able and depends on individual circumstances, but heat / noise can be an issue, and i spoke extensively to Altona and Pulse to understand the internal fan behaviour.......for reference i have a modest sized lounge, 20ft by (almost) 20 ft.......
in the end, happy enough with outcome, got what i wanted, a screen in each room, and just one remote in each, so first world problem solved, albeit at a cost.....
my bad, sorry...
Hi,
since my Atlona AT-HD4-v42 destroyed the hdmi chip of my BV8-40 (I'm currently waiting for a new mainboard), I would avoid Atlona products... I think that less expensive devices can do the same (with destruction of BV at the end or without).
so, can anyone recommend me a 4x2 switch that can be used with my BV (IR compatible via PUC), or a simple 4x2 switch which simply switches automatically to the last powered source (that would be sufficient 99% of the time if it's not PUC-compatible)
i don't need a matrix, only mirrored outputs is sufficient.
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mbee:Hi, since my Atlona AT-HD4-v42 destroyed the hdmi chip of my BV8-40 (I'm currently waiting for a new mainboard), I would avoid Atlona products... I think that less expensive devices can do the same (with destruction of BV at the end or without). so, can anyone recommend me a 4x2 switch that can be used with my BV (IR compatible via PUC), or a simple 4x2 switch which simply switches automatically to the last powered source (that would be sufficient 99% of the time if it's not PUC-compatible) i don't need a matrix, only mirrored outputs is sufficient. diisign.com
ssbrig:Michael, HDMI 1.4 is not capable of outputting 60 FPS. Vince is correct that using the HDMI ports other than number one (which is HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2 capable) would be a 'downgrade'
Michael:Ssbrig, I never said HDMI 1.4 I said HDCP 1.4. All five ports supports 4K 60 FPS. The only limitation is HD Copy Protection vs 1.4 instead of 2.2. For this an adapter is necessary to enable HDCP 2.2 devices on a HDMI 2.0 enabled port. So the solution I am suggesting should work. Here is the official information from B&O: HDMI socket 1: HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.0 (UHD signal with up to 60 frames per second) • HDMI socket 2-5: HDCP 1.4, HDMI 2.0 (UHD signal with up to 60 frames per second) • HDMI socket 6: HDCP 1.4, HDMI 1.4 (FHD only)
vlohjr1:Hi Michael the question that I am confused is that would the converter downgrade the 60 fps to 1.4 i.e. 24/30 in addition to hdcp? If not which hdmi cables do one use in and out the converter? 2.0? Thanks for clarifying Vince
Michael:Sure! The frame rate won't convert. The ports are HDMI 2.0 meaning they support 4K at 60 fps. BUT the HDCP 2.2 copy protection protocol was finalized later than HDMI 2.0. The reasons for the only port one is HDCP 2.2 is probably license/cost or hardware limitation but only B&O can answer this - and they won't. The only thing this means is that material using the newer copy protection protocol can't play back at 4K since the other ports don't know how to speak it. But with an adapter in the middle that does, this problem is fixed. When the copy protection link is OK the device will output 4K, at 60 FPS. Exiting right? :-)
vlohjr1:Thanks Michael you have saved me £££ not buying atlona (except upgrading hdmi 2.0 cables) Much appreciated thanks Vince