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In the newest B&O pricelist I see a 'BeoAmp 16' listed.
Does anyone know, what that is?
Itemnumber 9709 under BeoLink - DK price is 22.295 DKK.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Hi fat cat,
I suppose you compared this item number with the amp of a beolab 15/16 set.
4 beolab 5, beolab 9, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 6002, beolab 3500, beovision 7 55 mk2, 2 beovision 11 46 mk4, beotime, beosound ouverture, beosound essence, beoplay A8, beomaster 900 RG de luxe and the collection continues...
Link to pricelist?
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
A 1U 16 channel amp. 8 x 80-160 depending on configuration. Made to be used in the 3rd party world or B&O. Incredible value for $$.
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there
Emil Jensen
Bang & Olufsen Prisliste Opdateret pr. 01.12.2015 - Danmark - Download - Tryk her.
BeoMegaMan: A 1U 16 channel amp. 8 x 80-160 depending on configuration. Made to be used in the 3rd party world or B&O. Incredible value for $.
A 1U 16 channel amp. 8 x 80-160 depending on configuration. Made to be used in the 3rd party world or B&O. Incredible value for $.
Could you give some real world examples or provide a link to a documentation/user guide?
Which kind of input ports? Is it for a stereo or a multichannel setup?............
I suppose this is a new product?
I e recently order one to install to power 3D party in wall speakers.
The same amp will run a separate zone outdoor speakers through an essence.
Lastly, it will power some in wall speakers in bath.
So .. 3 zones of audio from one amp.
I think it's a wonderful solution. Nice for bringing in wall and/or 3D party stuff on board.
Designed to be used with essence I think.
Mir has auto sense for powering on so should be a cool piece for B&O.
It seems to be one of the hidden gems in the portfolio of B&O.
Did it come with a User Guide of some sort?
Maybe something that could (?) be used for a multi-multi-speaker setup on a BV?
Possibly;
I think you could 'trick' the avant or other TV in to thinking several speakers are connected
and have the BeoAmp 16 power those. . hadn't given it that thought yet;
I'm using it for in ceiling passive speakers connected to an avant and for outdoor
stuff through the essence MK2
MJM
So is the BeoAmp 16 only for powering passive speakers?
These kinds of items always fascinate me about B&O. That is, how many of these little known, little publicized "hidden" gems are in the B&O portfolio.
User Guide, please!!!!
I can't figure out how to attach a .pdf;
I don't know how either, but maybe if you have some sort of cloud storage (e.g. Dropbox....), that you could link to - to share it from there?
How about the external control and status for this ? do you now the part number?
thanks
I've found a photo of the device:https://www.facebook.com/377805212354427/photos/a.377847845683497.1073741830.377805212354427/716655128469432/?type=3&theater
Had a chat with my local B&O retailer today regarding the BeoAmp 16 and they were very helpful.
My new property will have passive ceiling mounted speakers, installed by the developer, and the BeoAmp would allow me to 'zone' these speakers by room.
I was quoted £2500 for the BeoAmp 16 but told I'd also need an Essence, for each zone, connected to the BeoAmp. So this setup would be £4860...
Is there any other way to control the BeoAmp or is connecting multiple Essence's the prescribed route? If so it seems like an oversight that the Essence wasn't built into the BeoAmp from the beginning...
Beoplay A9 MkII, BeoLab 4000, BeoSound Essence MkII
Here is a bit more information:
http://beointegration.com/uploaded/sheets/BeoAmp%2016.pdf
As I understand it (?), it is quite versatile.
You should be able to connect any audiosystem, but using Essences seems obvious, since this is thought of as a hidden installation with the speakers built-in to the wall/ceiling.
Another scenario might be using some of the channels for a BSys4 cinema setup with in-wall speakers and the rest for one or more zones with the Essence and/or a BS9000 together with a NL/ML Converter.
Some people want that sort of 'clean installation'.
Building-in (8) Essences would make it a very fixed solution.
Would be nice to hear about real life experiences with this amp.
Millemissen:Would be nice to hear about real life experiences with this amp.
I used one recently for an install where I was replacing an existing (non-B&O) whole house audio system.
The customer had recently bought a moment and a pair of speakers, but also had a (non-B&O) whole house audio system that he wanted to replace.
In each room in the house there were passive speakers in the ceiling as well as a cat5 cable for the room controllers of the old audio system - all of these were wired back to a central cupboard.
I installed a beoamp 16 in the cupboard, along with 6 x Essence boxes (one for each room), and used the existing cat5 cables to install an IR-eye in each room connected to the corresponding Essence, and connected each Essence to a pair of channels on the BeoAmp 16.
The BeoAmp16 is very flexible, you can use the channels individually, or if higher output power is required, you can bridge two channels together. (you can also turn off individual channels using the DIP switches if they are not all needed).
Martin.
Thanks Martin,
is my idea of combining e.g. 5 channels for the output of a BSys4 right, then?
Could be a uniquie possibility for some users/buyers.
Millemissen:is my idea of combining e.g. 5 channels for the output of a BSys4 right, then?
Yes, you could even use to connect passive speakers for the entire 12 channels of output that the BS4 is capable of providing, and still connect a couple of BS Essence boxes as well for speakers in other rooms, or perhaps bridge all the outputs to provide 8 channels at 160W (maybe for a 7.1 setup, albeit most subwoofers tend to be active these days).
If you'd use a WiSA transmitter, it would be no problem to integrate a BL19 (or two) with the BSys4.
Using the BV11/Avant etc it would be even easier.
Beolab 50, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)
The BeoAmp 16 is a 16 channel Amplifier that has RCA inputs and screw terminals as outputs for passive speaker like BeoVox 2
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/Bjørn Andersen
Yes, Bjørn - that is what we already have learned from the previous posts.
P.S. Feel free to post pictures directly - Beoworlders are very fond of pics ;-)
Will do :D
Hello forum
I would like to make a 7.1.4 home cinema installation, with a Beovision Avant 14, using the processor of the Avant with 6 Beolab 18, and 4 Celestial ceiling speakers (BCO).
I spoke with my reseller who told me that would be very difficult to achieve, B&O is not planning to update their processor for dolby atmos.
Having an external receiver would partially make it, but the center speaker of the television could not be driven by the receiver.
An receiver only for the ceiling speakers could/would create a delay or be difficult for volume adjusting.
Has anyone got an idea how to do it?
I now have 4 holes in the ceiling and plastering ist partially done ..
Thanks
Felipe
You - for sure - won't be able to use a BV14 for Atmos.
Neither alone or in 'combination' with any external receiver.
The nature of Atmos is that it must be delievered as a bitstream to a decoder that also controls the (entire) speaker setup.
Of course you can hope that there will be an Atmos solution from B&O sometime, but an update for the BV14 will not be possible.
However, the BV14 has a very capable audio engine, that is capable of handling up to 21 channels.
Part of this is the TrueImage upmixer - you can read a lot more about this here:
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/~/mediaV3/Files/User-Guides/BeoVision-14/Technical-Sound-Guide-1409.pdf
A true Atmos experience needs a source, that has a native Atmos track (on a (UHD) BluRay disc)
Those are relative rare.
All Atmos capable receivers/preamps also have an upmixer built-in.
It is said, that these work pretty well with 7.1 or less channel material.
But the big question here is, whether the TrueImage would do a better job here....
....I'd assume so ;-)
Since you already have this upmixer built-in (for free), I would encourage you to use that - and finish your installation.
Maybe later on you will get a solution with native Atmos support?
Please take a closer look at the Technical Sound Guide.
I am sure, that you also will find someone on the forum to answer your questions, once you have started using the TrueImage upmixer.
Hello MM,
thank you very much for your reply.
I understand now better why it could not work as i was hoping it would...
I read the User Guide of Trueimage, and have now a better idea how the speakers were tested and the algortihm made.
Since i will go for a 7.1 wired connection of the speakers, the 4 PL ports of the BV14 are taken. The additional speakers will have to be wireless.
I would like to have the ceiling speakers integrated in the ceiling.
So option 1 is to place active B&O speakers in the ceiling (maybe the BL17, with a frame below to access the speaker).
Option 2 would be a receiver/amplifier (WISA) that would drive passivly ceiling speakers. Is there such a receiver/amplifier?
Thanks,
felipe
You'd need a couple of (WiSA) Receiver 1's and either a couple of the old MCL2P/BeoLink Passive amp or the new BeoAmp 2 to drive the passive speakers in the ceiling...
....if really all physical PL ports are occupied.
....if really all physical PL ports are occupied (?)
You can connect up to 8 wired BL's and you have the centerchannel build-in = 9 channels on the BV14.
If you pick the wireless subwoofer/BL19, you would only need one Receiver 1 for one of the ceiling speakers - the other set/the amp could be wired.
With the BV 14, i have 4 PL ports, planned to be connected like this:
PL1: FL/FR, PL2: Subwoofer (wired), PL3: SRL/SRR, PL4: SBL/SBR
If i use the Subwoofer wireless, 1 PL is free for 2 ceiling speakers, but wiring now for 1 set from the tv is complicated...
So the easiest solution, (and still using the cutted out holes for the Celestial BOC82) would be:
- 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514) -> BeoAmp 2 -> Celestial Left / Right Surround Height (Trueimage upmix)
- 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514) -> BeoAmp 2 -> Celestial Left / Right Front Height (Trueimage upmix)
Is this the way to do it?
felipeBet: So the easiest solution, (and still using the cutted out holes for the Celestial BOC82) would be: - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514) -> BeoAmp 2 -> Celestial Left / Right Surround Height (Trueimage upmix) - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514) -> BeoAmp 2 -> Celestial Left / Right Front Height (Trueimage upmix) Is this the way to do it?
That is what I would suggest.
If you involve your dealer/installer, be sure to talk this over with him.
P.S. You must also consider where to place the Receiver 1's and the amps - do remember, that they need power.
Thanks a lot,
i will forward to my installer.
Have a nice day,
after researching a bit more about the BeoLab Receiver1, i found out that i need 1 receiver/channel, that means 4 Receiver1 for the 4 ceiling speakers.
Before trying to find out where to hide them in the living room, maybe i could use the 2 speaker ports of the Momentum (in the living room), and link these ports to the Beovision Avant and configure these as surround speakers? Or how does the momentum link to the TV?