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Overture CD player issue

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Pendragon
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Pendragon Posted: Tue, Aug 28 2012 4:04 PM

Hi all, 

 

The cd player on my overture spins the cd once or halfway then just stops all together. Is there a diy fix for this or any useful information. Cd player was repaired at B&O 5 yrs ago at a cost of  £150-200.  I dont fancy taking it back again:(

Thankyou for your help in advance.Smile

joeyboygolf
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You could try clening the laser lens with a cotton bud. If this doesn't fix it then the CD mech probably  needs to be replaced.

Regards Graham

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Steffen replied on Tue, Aug 28 2012 10:55 PM

Those issues with the CD mech's in the Ouverture/2300/3000 has been discussed quite often here on Beoworld.

You can be sure, that if you take it to a B&O shop, they'll just replace the CD-unit (because it's the easy solution).
But according to some of the experts here on Beoworld, the problem is often not the laser or CD mechanism.
The problem is often located to the servo-board that controls the laser (worn out capacitors). But on those systems they're SMD's (surface mounted) -and you really need to know what you're doing to replace them...
So -if you're not experienced in electronics (soldering, etc.) you need to find a repair shop (or a friendly person) that can actually repair things.

If not -there's only two solutions: Go to a B&O shop and spend £ 200 - or live with it as a very nice tuner/cassette-player Wink

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@steffen

The C2103 fix on CDM4 mechs and the like is well documented on the forum.

Can you point me to a post on BeoWorld, which reports actual success in this endeavour, on newer CD mechs with servo boards which have SMD components such as those fitted to Ouverture/2300/3000 models?

I read most of the posts of interest to me and there are/were several on the theory of this operation, few if any, on the practical aspects and even less which actually report success.

With respect to SMD capacitors on servo boards I would like to know which ones and how.

Regards Graham

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Stonk replied on Wed, Aug 29 2012 10:47 AM

joeyboygolf:
With respect to SMD capacitors on servo boards I would like to know which ones and how.

Me too. I have an Ouverture that is fussy which CD's it wants to play. I did swap the CD lens as it was easy to do but even at the time I knew it wouldn't resolve the issue. It didn't and the player behaved exactly the same with a new lens which led me to here to ask advice on possible culprits on the servo board that could cause the issue.

As Graham mentioned, the C2103 fix is well documented but that doesn't apply to the newer CD mechs. Unfortunately my thread ran out of steam quickly without an answer so the Ouverture has been stored away.

 

If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.

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solderon29 replied on Wed, Aug 29 2012 11:17 AM

These symptoms are typical,and can be caused by a variety of different failures,not least the laser itself!! There is no repair "cure all",like the infamous C2103.The earlier mechs were undoubtably more robust.Another problem is that several differing mechs were used in Ouvertures.The servo boards are tiny using smt components,but certain versions do suffer from failed electrolytics.If you look at the board,you can see if the capacitors are swollen or obviously leaking.There will be a distinctive "pong" too.

I donned Anorak and broken specs held together with sticking plaster,to get in the mood,and had a go.I managed to change the suspect caps,using a needle point soldering iron,and it did the trick.However,this was with a particular mech,another one could be completely different!

I understand why Dealers swap out the mech,as time is money,and they naturally don't want the repair to "bounce".

I have several mechs I've salvaged,and out of interest I hope to check them out to see what can be done,but alas it's another "round tuit" job!

It's well worth looking to see if your's is a capacitor problem,if you have the time and patience.

Nick

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Steffen replied on Wed, Aug 29 2012 11:58 PM

joeyboygolf:

@steffen

The C2103 fix on CDM4 mechs and the like is well documented on the forum.

Can you point me to a post on BeoWorld, which reports actual success in this endeavour, on newer CD mechs with servo boards which have SMD components such as those fitted to Ouverture/2300/3000 models?

I read most of the posts of interest to me and there are/were several on the theory of this operation, few if any, on the practical aspects and even less which actually report success.

With respect to SMD capacitors on servo boards I would like to know which ones and how.

I'm not an expert on this issue - but I can refer to a thread on the old forum where an expert (dillen) says, that he has never had to replace a laser.
He's also talking about smd's. (About changing SMD's is in another thread...)

Steffen,

If the Ouverture laser lens is blocked, the blockage will have to be removed somehow. If a corner of a post-it note
cannot do the trick, some other means of cleaning will have to be figured out. It's tiny flakes of chrome or similar
that are stuck on the voice coil magnet so can be a bit difficult to shift.
If the laser is dead, it will have to be replaced (I've never had to do this).
If it's just starved for current (as usual), the focus is off or the cats eye pattern for some other reason is skewed, the
reason will have to be found, usually dried out capacitors.

Martin

The link is here:

 http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/35325/296387.aspx#296387


There are other threads on the subject - I just don't have the time to go looking for them all...

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Pendragon replied on Thu, Sep 6 2012 10:03 AM

Thankyou all for your comments/help. There is an electronics shop locally I will give them a try together with your suggestions. May end up on e-bay if no result sadly:( I will only have Beolab 6000 remain. My avant packed up few years back...

Thanks again Smile

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