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I have had BL800's for years and have always been quite happy with them but of late feel I am missing quite a bit of music through them obviously the lowest frequencies. I have been thinking of adding a sub woofer to my setup for music. I mainly listen to classical music especially piano and am hoping that it may add the missing bits.
Does anyone use a B&O Sub for this purpose. I have no interest in crashing and banging noises while listening to cinema (in fact I have disconnected my rear speakers to stop this cacophony)
I notice that the Beolab 19 does not connect in the same way as the Beolab 2 used to. It seems to have only one conncection. Will this mean that connected to a Beocentre 2 and Beovision 8-40 it will get the right signals?
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who listens to classical music using a B&O sub as I would like to know whether it is actually beneficial.
Many thanks
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Fansastic:Maybe someone with a BL11 can share his experience with you.
I have the BL19 paired with BL1s, and great sound improvement. not booming and well suited for music. I would recommend it to add it to the TV (without the rears). It is not overwhelming and adds what your current speakers have been missing.
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Thank you for your replies. I think I may go ahead with the purchase.
Paddy
I recently added a BL19 to a pair of BL18's, paired with a BV11 and a BS Moment.
We play a wide variety of music, and watch a range of TV & film genres, and everything is improved by the BL19. Compared to non B&O subs I've has, it's subtle & restrained.
The BV11 does allow for some very fine adjustments - it's Audio Master controls are very comprehensive - so your milage may vary of course.
Tom
Yes, the BeoLab 19 will certainly add depth to classical music combined with your BeoLab 8000s. The `BeoLab 11 only really works well with 4000 and 6000 in my opinion.
With the exchange rate as it is, I could ship one to Australia and save you a few dollars 🙂
SHEFFIELD:Yes, the BeoLab 19 will certainly add depth to classical music combined with your BeoLab 8000s. The `BeoLab 11 only really works well with 4000 and 6000 in my opinion. With the exchange rate as it is, I could ship one to Australia and save you a few dollars 🙂
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I have spoken to consultant. I would need RJ45 to 5 Pin DIN for the Powerlink connection apparently. I hope the BV8 is able to distribute the frequencies between the BL19 and BL800's properly. Also the sub listed on the TV is BL2 which is old. I hope when this is chosen it is OK with the BL19.
paddy2042:I have spoken to consultant. I would need RJ45 to 5 Pin DIN for the Powerlink connection apparently. I hope the BV8 is able to distribute the frequencies between the BL19 and BL800's properly. Also the sub listed on the TV is BL2 which is old. I hope when this is chosen it is OK with the BL19.
One thing that freaks me out with B&O Subs is the access to the speaker cone. When I see them I feel nervous that the speaker cone has no protection whatsoever. Am I correct in this? What if someone accidentally kicks or knocks the cone. I imagine it would dent without too much pressure. Anyone any reflections on this. I realise that I will have to live with this fact as there are no other options. I used to have another brand of sub and it was protected with a metal grill. Made me feel much better.
i previously had a beolab 2 for many years, it has been fine even with light knocks. as bass isn't super directional, pick a spot that you would't walk around everyday. you can even put it somewhat perpendicular to the wall if you're really worried about it.
btw, don't forget that the speaker cone of a subwoofer is much, MUCH stronger than normal speaker cones as the bass they produce can be rather violent. because of this the cone is much tougher and also the rubber surround of the cone tends to be way stiffer compared to midrange cones, not to mention tweeters.
the pressed in cones you sometimes see in big box stores won't happen to your bl19 unless you're propperly trying to ruin it :p
i would be more worried about denting the metal when vacuuming or something like that, or scratching it up, then hurting the cone when touching it even when done so firmly.
hope this helps the nerves somewhat.
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Fansastic:I was told by my dealer once that the BL11 was especially designed for just a bit more low punch for classical music. The BL2 was especially designed for movies and not so much for music. I think adding a BL11 will give you the extra punch you are looking for. Maybe someone with a BL11 can share his experience with you.
I think adding a BL11 will give you the extra punch you are looking for. Maybe someone with a BL11 can share his experience with you.
No surprise, but I've owned the BL2, BL19 and I have 2 x BL11s (one isn't even in use). The BL19 was decent, but I didn't think it was as effective as the BL2, which as incredible. The entire floor rocked. I sold the BL19.
The BL11 is a decent compromise. Much more subtle, but does make a difference to you movie-watching experience.
moxxey:No surprise, but I've owned the BL2, BL19 and I have 2 x BL11s (one isn't even in use). The BL19 was decent, but I didn't think it was as effective as the BL2, which as incredible. The entire floor rocked. I sold the BL19. The BL11 is a decent compromise. Much more subtle, but does make a difference to you movie-watching experience.
Does the Beovision 8-40 have a bass management system? I have been reading up on the connection of a Beolab 19 and it talks about this.
Just my $0.02. I've often shared my opinion on these forums that the most pleasing B&O product(s) I've owned were a pair of Beolab 3 with the addition of a Beolab 2. The BL2, took care of the bass management for connected speakers, at that time I had a BV8-32, actually.
That being said, before the BL3's came into my life, I was using a pair of BL8000s and a BL2, and that combination was also bonkers good.
So, perhaps an option to consider instead of a BL19, is to look for a pre-owned BL2, it was built like a tank and with 850W inside, it'll knock your socks off, and take care of the bass management as well for your BV8.
Well I went ahead and bought the Beolab 19 and have it connected. I am trying to work out what to set the Low Pass Filter to. The manual for the BL8000's says they go down to 40 Hz so I wonder if I should set the BL19 to that figure. I have done this but there seems to be a gap in the sound between the very low frequencies and the bottom notes of the Bl8000s. Does the Beovosion 8-40 have a bass management system to divide the frequencies? This is the Master that the speakers are plugged into. I hope with some tweaking I will get it to work fine. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Hello,
I am not an expert but I guess if beovision 8 has a menu where you can "declare" the speakers you have connected and their role then it has (at least) some kind of sound management. In a set up of beolab 18 and beolab 19 I set the low pass filter just a bit lower than the "middle" position and it sounds fantastic. The 18-19 set up is connected to an old playmaker so no bass management there!
In an other set up (where the management of sound is done by a V1) I have connected a beolab 2 and a pair of beolab 18. If you set up the correct way the position and role switches and lower a bit the low pass filter (you can do so in the V1 bass management menu) the sound almost matches the 19-18 set up.
All the above are "conclusions" made by my ears...no special equipment was used :-)
I will continue to try different settings.
I find it amazing that B&O don't seem to have any interest in sound. There is almost no information from B&O on the details of the setup. There are plenty of details on subs in general on the net and the detailing needed to get them right. B&O I think have just produced their equipment for the bangs and rumbles of movie watching. Maybe this is the new market. In dealing with audio stores and brands I have yet to come across one that seems to have less grasp of actual music reproduction. B&O are pumping out compressed music into very expensive speakers which I think most audio retailers would be horrified at.
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