Sign in   |  Join   |  Help
Untitled Page

ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022
READ ONLY FORUM

This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022

 

Can not see my BS Essence at Bang & Olufsen app

rated by 0 users
This post has 24 Replies | 2 Followers

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Master123456789 Posted: Sat, Dec 16 2017 9:14 AM

Dear forum

Do you know why I cannot see my BS Essence at my Bang and Olufsen app? I can only see my Beolink Converter ML/NL. So i cannot turn the volume up and down at the app. I will upload i picture also.

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Hiort
Top 50 Contributor
Sweden
Posts 2,895
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Hiort replied on Sat, Dec 16 2017 2:46 PM
I would try to restart your router

 

 

 

 

Livingroom: BL3, BL11, BV11-46 Kitchen: Beosound 1 GVA, Beocom 2 Bathroom: M3 Homeoffice: M3, Beocom 2  Library: Beosound Emerge, Beocom 6000 Bedroom: M5, Essence remote  Travel: Beoplay E8 2.0, Beoplay EQ, Beoplay Earset

Stan
Top 100 Contributor
Chicago-area USA
Posts 869
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Stan replied on Sat, Dec 16 2017 5:09 PM
I have problems sometimes when the Essence is on my 5gz network and my phone is on the 2.4ghz network (or vice-versa). If you have both networks, try connecting your phone to whichever it is not currently connected.

I don’t understand why this would matter since I would expect the router to route between networks, but it seems to.

Stan
Mr 10Percent
Top 150 Contributor
So West, Its Now East
Posts 591
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Power down all NL sources - especially any TV connected to the MLNL Converter.

Power down all Beoplay WiFi sources

Reboot TV (if applicable), then Converter, then everything else. 

 

Mr 10Percent
Top 150 Contributor
So West, Its Now East
Posts 591
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Are you using any Powerline products?

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

I have reset my essence without any luck and also started up my router and converter more times. 

I don't make any sense that my converter plays tunein as it don't have tunein

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Everything has been restarted more times

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

 

please see screen shot below

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

I don't know how many of you that understands danish - but it say that the beolink converter is in a intergrated setup with beosound essence. Do any of you know what that means and if I can get rid of that?

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Mr 10Percent
Top 150 Contributor
So West, Its Now East
Posts 591
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Master123456789:

Everything has been restarted more times

Mind me asking what is your complete setup? May assist in trying to diagnose your problem.

Also, have you downloaded BeoTool app if you have iOS access?

Beroli
Top 500 Contributor
Germany
Posts 316
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Beroli replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 6:25 PM
Master123456789:

Dear forum

Do you know why I cannot see my BS Essence at my Bang and Olufsen app? I can only see my Beolink Converter ML/NL. So i cannot turn the volume up and down at the app. I will upload i picture also.

Hi Master123456789,

Your Essence disappears because it is integrated with the Converter. This is now a „feature“ as Thomas wrote me a while ago, because my BS-Moment disappeared from the start-page. The main use case for this was for the Essence MKII and the BeoSound Core.

You can‘t do anything but sending Thomas Andersen a eMail, explaining your setup and this issue. As far as I remember, he wrote to me, that they are working on a setting-page, were the customer can choose, if he wants to have the essence integrated. This new integration was done, because B&O thought it is better, than handeling 2 separate devices. I disagree with this feature and your setup is another proof for my opinion.

Don‘t waste any more time on this 3rd. Advent in soving tgis issue, since you will need Thomas help.

Cheers

Beroli
elephant
Top 10 Contributor
AU
Posts 8,219
OFFLINE
Founder
elephant replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 12:17 AM
Beroli:

Master123456789:

Dear forum

Do you know why I cannot see my BS Essence at my Bang and Olufsen app? I can only see my Beolink Converter ML/NL. So i cannot turn the volume up and down at the app. I will upload i picture also.

Hi Master123456789,

Your Essence disappears because it is integrated with the Converter. This is now a „feature“ as Thomas wrote me a while ago, because my BS-Moment disappeared from the start-page. The main use case for this was for the Essence MKII and the BeoSound Core.

You can‘t do anything but sending Thomas Andersen a eMail, explaining your setup and this issue. As far as I remember, he wrote to me, that they are working on a setting-page, were the customer can choose, if he wants to have the essence integrated. This new integration was done, because B&O thought it is better, than handeling 2 separate devices. I disagree with this feature and your setup is another proof for my opinion.

Don‘t waste any more time on this 3rd. Advent in soving tgis issue, since you will need Thomas help.

Cheers

Beroli

Thanks Beroli - I now better understand the problem.

I fell into this trap and ticked INTEGRATED on my configuration only to find one of the boxes disappeared !!

In my case I was able to undo the tick and restore the functions I wanted.

I think I did that by using an old version / previous application.

BeoNut since '75

Roger
Top 200 Contributor
Norway
Posts 417
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Roger replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 10:08 AM

I support Beroli´s recommendation, but was just curious what you see when you open the B&O app and:

  1. On the Home page, double tap the product
  2. Configure
  3. Settings
  4. BeoLink
  5. Link to other products (here it would typically say NONE)

Roger

elephant
Top 10 Contributor
AU
Posts 8,219
OFFLINE
Founder
elephant replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 11:46 AM
Roger:

I support Beroli´s recommendation, but was just curious what you see when you open the B&O app and:

On the Home page, double tap the product Configure Settings BeoLink Link to other products (here it would typically say NONE)

Roger

Not sure if you meant “you” == “Elephant” Smile

Here is what my Core’s settings show:

And thank you for double tap hint - I did not know about it - and it worked like a charm

BeoNut since '75

Beroli
Top 500 Contributor
Germany
Posts 316
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Beroli replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 12:10 PM

I forgot to offer more important insight, I got from B&O earlier regarding the integrated setup. It seems that one of the two products are still returning information to the app indicating that it is part of an integrated setup. In the app, B&O is asking all products about their integrated setup status in the background while using a B&O specific protocol. Sometimes there are situations where e.g. product A indicates that it is integrated with product B but product B does not indicate that it is part of an integrated setup. In these scenarios, the App is forcing to choose and the current implementation will choose to believe product A and therefore create the integrated setup.

In the old BeoMusic App I choose to integrate the Essence (product B) in my Office with my BV-TV (product A) in the Living room. I did that, because I still wanted to listen to Music, while testing the BeoSound Moment Beta-software in different NAS-setting. While the Moment was not available, I used the Essence as a backup. It worked perfect. Later, when the new Bang & Olufsen App came around, I decided to do a factory reset on my essence and accidentally ticked the Box for integrated setup again. Because of that the Office-Essence disappeared from the start screen. Even if I unticked the integrated setting box, the Essence stayed hidden.

After writing to B&O, they explained what happened and told me to check if somehow the TV still thinks it is still integrated with the Essence. I checked and I found, that the Essence was not listed there. I activated the integration with the Essence on the TV and deactivated it later again. After a restart the Essence was visible again in the start screen. It seemed, that somehow the TV was still telling to the app, that the integration is intended.

Therefore my advice would be, to sever the integration on booth devices, by doing a factory reset and a first setup again without choosing the integration. But your NL-ML-Converter needs to be in fact integrated with the Essence in order to connect the Essence to your TV. I don’t know, if this still works, if the integration is not chosen. Maybe there is a new update for the Converter to handle this scenario.

If not B&O will ask you to do the following:

1. Go to Settings->About and long-press the icon, the select Extend Logging

2. Browse around in the app for a minute or two, just allowing the background stuff in the app a chance to execute

3. Go to Settings->Feedback and submit a feedback, just mentioning issues with integrated setup

They will grab your feedback and forward it to the person in charge, maybe will confirm this theory.

I hope this explanation will help you to solve the issue.

Cheers Beroli

 

Stan
Top 100 Contributor
Chicago-area USA
Posts 869
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Stan replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 5:10 PM

Beroli:
But your NL-ML-Converter needs to be in fact integrated with the Essence in order to connect the Essence to your TV. I don’t know, if this still works, if the integration is not chosen.

When my NL-ML-Converter and BV8 were both working (past summer), it did not need to be integrated to connect my Essence to my TV.  I would turn on my TV, select TV on my NL-ML, then "join" my Essence to the NL-ML.  At the time the B&O app didn't support multi-room so this was with the BeoMusic app.

Beroli
Top 500 Contributor
Germany
Posts 316
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Beroli replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 6:37 PM

Stan:

When my NL-ML-Converter and BV8 were both working (past summer), it did not need to be integrated to connect my Essence to my TV.  I would turn on my TV, select TV on my NL-ML, then "join" my Essence to the NL-ML.  At the time the B&O app didn't support multi-room so this was with the BeoMusic app.

Then the solution for the question should be a a factory reset on booth devices without ticking the integrated setting box during the first setup. 

Thank you Stan.

 

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
This is mine. If I don’t ude the integreted, will then the multiroom work?

elephant
Top 10 Contributor
AU
Posts 8,219
OFFLINE
Founder
elephant replied on Tue, Dec 19 2017 3:32 AM
Master123456789:

This is mine. If I don’t ude the integreted, will then the multiroom work?

Yes I believe so

BeoNut since '75

Roger
Top 200 Contributor
Norway
Posts 417
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Roger replied on Tue, Dec 19 2017 7:04 AM

Yes, it will.

The main purpose of the "integration" is to let the system know if you have e.g. a BeoVision Avant and a Moment in the living room, that are integrated since the speakers are only connected to the BeoVision. If you are listening on a different device in your home, and would like the living room to join by using the app, the system/app will know that both the Moment and the BeoVision will have to be active. The new range of BeoVision's are a bit different (currently only the Eclipse) since the Core is built into the TV. There will be plenty of confusion over this themeBig Smile

Roger

elephant
Top 10 Contributor
AU
Posts 8,219
OFFLINE
Founder
elephant replied on Tue, Dec 19 2017 9:30 AM
Roger:

The new range of BeoVision's are a bit different (currently only the Eclipse) since the Core is built into the TV.

Ahhhhhhhhhh Idea

BeoNut since '75

Master123456789
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 237
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

I have tried to change the first one to none (as seen on my danish screen shot) Did not make any difference. And have restarted app, essence and beolink converter.

Beroli
Top 500 Contributor
Germany
Posts 316
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Beroli replied on Tue, Dec 19 2017 10:13 PM
Master123456789:

I have tried to change the first one to none (as seen on my danish screen shot) Did not make any difference. And have restarted app, essence and beolink converter.

Dear Master123456789,

a simple restart won’t work (as I explained above). Please try a factory reset on booth devices and do the configuration again - without activating the integration settings.

Cheers Beroli
Page 1 of 1 (25 items) | RSS