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Oppo UDP-203 to BV7-40 Mk II in other room

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Beer_Baron
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Beer_Baron Posted: Mon, Apr 23 2018 10:54 AM

I've bought an Oppo UDP-203 for the Eclipse that I shall eventually own. I'm wondering how to connect it to a BV7-40 Mk II in another room.

As far as I know I shall need:

  • HDMI out of Oppo to DVI-I in for the BV7 for the video,
  • digital audio out of the Oppo to digital audio in on the BV-7 for the audio (is this correct? I think I've been told to put it in A4 if the video goes in the DVI-I)
  • IR control out of the BV7 to control the Oppo (how? where does it go on the Oppo?

Any suggestions appreciated

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beoaus replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 12:49 AM

Hello,

Yes to your 1st Point. Set the Oppo to 720P, avoid auto or any other setting. 

On the BV7 connections menu, I used these settings - Socket AV4, Remote DTV, Audio Socket A3, IR Socket C2, HDTV DVI-1. When saving this you need to select Oppo or like from the PUC list. Please note the settings I listed are somewhat interchangeable, so you could use AV4, A4 and C4 to be neat or to help those with OCD.

I used an optical to coaxial converter. If you do not get sound you may need to access your BV7 service menu and check that PCM 2.0 is set/available. Or look at a BV7 software/hardware sound upgrade. This area can be tricky.

The IR lead goes 1 inch to the right of the display on the Oppo. See page 6 of the manual. here. In my case the other end went into the BV7 under audio socket A4.

Good luck Beoaus.

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kallasr replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 5:57 AM
To use it on another room you are willing to move it around, right? You are not asking for a way to transfer the digital signals to another room...? Just to be sure.

I‘d get another (2nd) player for the BV7. Select one looking at the available PUC list. The picture of the Beovision 7 MKII is not the best (according to todays standards) so the Oppo might be an overkill.

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kallasr:
To use it on another room you are willing to move it around, right? You are not asking for a way to transfer the digital signals to another room...? Just to be sure.

I don't quite understand what you are saying. The Oppo is in another room. It will be connected by HDMI to the DVI-I input on the BV-7, digital coax for the sound as specified in the original post.

My questions were about which port on the BV-7 to connect the sound to, and how do I control the basic functions on the Oppo (Start, stop, pause, step forward, back, etc.), is the IR control from the BV7 back to the Oppo sufficient or is there something else I must do? Must I modify the List in the Beo4 remote, for example? Is there anything else I must do?

Having a second Blu-ray player connected to the BV-7 I would only ask the same questions - ie how and to what ports do I connect it? I don't see how that improves things. I have one TV and one Oppo player, they happen to be in separate rooms.

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beoaus:
The lead goes 1 inch to the right of the display. See page 6 of the manual.

I am not clear on what you are saying here. The manual you pointed to was the Oppo manual, page 6 is a picture of the front panel of the Oppo. Did you mean perhaps the BV-7 manual, and/or a different page number?

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beoaus replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 9:02 AM

I just edited my original post. Please refer to that.

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When I read your initial post, I get the impression, that you want to use it with the Eclipse AND with the BV7 (which is located in another room) - right?

This will - apart from having cables running (at which lenght) - be different due to the different output resolutions needed.

Normally you do such things with a Matrix (B&O uses and have tested the Atlona devices).

This however, would be a very expensive solution.

May I ask, why you want to use it with both tv’s.....if that is correct understood?

The only user case, where you would benefit, would be to start a video in one room and continue in the other.

 

Otherweise a seperate player (a smaller an a much cheaper, maybe) for the BV7 would be a better solution.

How to set this up, was already described by beoaus (the ir-eye goes to the front of the OPPO).

But - don’t forget - setting up a MK2/BV7 for this can be tricky.

 

To  ‘Any suggestions appreciated) - get yourself a later MK of the BV7 with an built-in blurayplayer....

.....a much easier and smoother solution (and a much better picture quality there).

 

MM

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beoaus replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 10:43 AM

Sorry if I am off track here. I figured the Eclipse has not been purchased as yet, so the BV7 connection to the Oppo is just a temporary or short term solution.

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Sandyb replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 11:26 AM
For the IR eye, just wave it in front of the Oppo player whilst pressing something on the Oppo remote. You'll find the sweet spot on the Oppo player soon enough and then just attach the eye to the sweet spot.

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Firstly, my thanks to those who've replied. And well done those sleuths who have figured out this is preparation for a future Eclipse.

However, those suggesting that I just get a second BR player for the BV7 are missing the point. The reason I am against this is:

  • There is no requirement for a different film to be played in two different places
  • Sometimes it's just more convenient to start watching in one room (kitchen/dining/casual) and later move to big room (lounge room/dedicated theatre room) or vice versa (get popcorn). So one BR player that pauses on request and starts in a different room fits my lifestyle
  • Matrix is insanely expensive. I don't need it. I'm either going to have a switch or a splitter or just pull out one HDMI cable and replace it with another (the Oppo is readily accessible for this reason). Yes, there'll be handshake issues. Yes, it's not perfect. But compared to a separate BR player and ejecting disc from one player and placing into a second player and then finding where it was that I paused the film - well, I think this is the least worst solution..
  • I simply don't have a suitable place to put a second BR player. Those that an be mounted vertically behind a BV7 don't seem to be made anymore. And I am against it for the reason mentioned above. And where the BV7 is will be an isolated wall, so a remote BR player is still required even if in the same room.
  • The BV has been relegated to a secondary room. It's DVD player still works. So 99% of the time it will play TV or a DVD. It's rare that it will need to play a BR but I am preparing for the day when the DVD fails, and/or the special occasion when I want to watch a BR in the secondary room.

More on my question about how to control the Oppo from a separate room via a BV7 and Beo4 remote combination:

  • The Oppo has an IR receiver on the back. I intend to place an IR blaster there, connected to the BV7.
  • So I'd like to know what further steps I need to take to control the Oppo in this way (eg Beo4 remote issues).

Any other suggestions about getting later model BV7s, well -- have I mentioned I'm getting an Eclipse? I've already sold my wife, my children are working long shifts in coal mines, and I have given up my second pre-dinner gin and tonic. So, money is a consideration here.

Please, I framed the original question quite specifically. I appreciate the "thinking outside the box" but I would like to know what solutions are available for the situation I described. If it is impossible, so be it. I'd just like to know what I can do in this situation.

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I'm either going to have a switch or a splitter or just pull out one HDMI cable and replace it with another (the Oppo is readily accessible for this reason).

If you want to control the OPPO from the second room, you will need ‘a switch/splitter or just pull out one ir-cable and replace it with another.

And you must have the OPPO codes in the BV7 as well.


The BV7/MK2 must be able to handle the signals coming from the video/DVI and audio/digital-coax, which is how you described it in the initial post.

My suggestion would be to try this out directly on the BV7 first - before buying any longer cables.

 

I am looking forward to read about the results of your experiments.

 

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kallasr replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 8:36 PM
Beer_Baron:

I don't quite understand what you are saying. The Oppo is in another room. It will be connected by HDMI to the DVI-I input on the BV-7, digital coax for the sound as specified in the original post.

OK, so it has 2 HDMI out ports, the Oppo that is?

Each can be configured to different resolutions to get the best out the eclipse (1080p) and the max. resolution supported (720p) for BV7?

So you only need IR support from second room?

Since you already have a HDMI cable from Oppo to BV7 (converter in between to seperate DVI + Coax (Pic + Sound), I guess...), check if cable length for IR/PUC cable is fine and use a PUC cable from BV7 to Oppo (next to HDMI cable).

Hope I understood your setup right.

Ralf

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kallasr replied on Tue, Apr 24 2018 8:41 PM
Just saw you want to unplug HDMI cable etc.

Then you would need to change resolution or have a smart converter in between.

IMHO it is better to take the disk to the other room.

Just some thoughts:

In a world of streaming services you might not even do that too often, amazon, netflix etc will remember were you stopped and play from there.

So might be better to check this route…

Ralf

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....and a second BRP could provide these apps, which the OPPO 203 does not.

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