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MMC Pickup repair

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Designed-AV Posted: Fri, Feb 21 2014 10:20 PM

Hi thinking of how to repair a mmc pickup. has or does anyone know how to do it? 

Can be put into an existing MMC a replacement needle?

Is there such a needle on the market?

Regards 

Jan

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You can't just purchase an off-the-shelf replacement needle - the cartridge must be rebuilt.    And the best, most economical service to use for this is Axel Schurholz.   In fact, he can upgrade your cartridge if you wish (e.g. put an MMC-2 cantilever/stylus on an MMC-4 cartridge body).

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thanks for your reply. do you know where I can buy a off-the-shelf replacement needle?

Because I want to be able to rebuilt the cartidge, I want to ask the question again how to do this? 

I have many customers who purchase or comes to service with a broken mmc needle. I serve many B & O products, but has not serviced a mmc needle, but would like to provide service in mmc needle.

grateful for all the responses and info

Best regards

Jan

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Dillen replied on Sun, Feb 23 2014 4:33 PM

Many repairers would like to service MMC cartridges but it's not very easy.
The easiest thing would be to take a stylus off another quality brand and then transfer to the
tiny rubber support inside the MMC cartridge.
But do you have the method, skills and tools for getting into the MMC cartridge to do the job - and out again ?

Martin

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Hi Martin, I actually do not have method, skills and tools. Ok I have been working for 30 years with the Service of TV and stereo, and maybe my tools enough, I also have a Carl Zeiss microscope Axiolab that yes can be good to have.

Which replacement needle would fit on mmc pickup?
What tools are needed?

With best regards

Jan

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Here a pic of a MMC cartridge

The biggest problems are broken cantilevers and the elastomer suspension getting old. The needle (diamond) comes in different qualities and forms, depending on the MMC number, the cantilever comes in different materials, aluminum, platinum.

Your problem will be: First to disassemble the cartridge without doing any forther damage, second attach the new cantilever (with the correct needle inserted in the cantilever) to the micro cross, third, find the correct elastomer and attach that in the correct way. 4th, assemble it all correctly. 5th, test and measure for correct function. 

As I repair printing machines from 1 to 70 tons I cant help you with the tools, my smallest tool is a 7 mm fork/star wrench

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Thanks it's actually a great photo, just as I was looking for. generally mmc20 needle less expensive to get in Sweden and maybe the needle from a mmc20 would fit on a mmc? correct me if I'm wrong.

The problem is not primarily (Tools or skills) tools, we can buy and knowledge hopefully get me here more, of all, the members of beoworld.
Then, it just serves a mmc, it will be already broken so if I do not succeed it does not matter it was already broken.
obviously all the information I can get here on beoworld so I can more quickly manage to serve a mmc pickups. If looking Google? so is there no information how to serve them. It would be nice to finally have a light on these secret and make it possible in the future that many others can serve a mmc pickup.
So I thank for all the answers I can get, even if you think it might is not right or stupid, get in touch for that in context, it may be the solution.
Best regards
Jan
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A video of Der Meister (Axel) at work here.   (How's your German?)   You can often find people selling defective MMC's on eBay for you to practice on.  Good Luck.

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chartz replied on Mon, Feb 24 2014 3:00 PM

MediaBobNY:

 You can often find people selling defective MMC's on eBay for you to practice on. 

But now even broken B&O command silly high prices, unfortunately. I've seen people bidding on broken carts up to really preposterous amounts. Stick out tongue

 

Jacques

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Jan maybe you should try to contact the other Swedish members, and make with them a joint effort, there are members from Stockholm, Örebro and Halmstad as far as I remember. Some of these members must have cartridges to start on.

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Hello again, hope everyone had a good time, did not have much time to write but I've had time to buy some tools and will soon make an attempt to serve a MMC needle.

Will tell you more and add some pictures.

Have a good time, as long as you wait for pictures.

Best regards

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Jeff replied on Sun, Mar 2 2014 9:38 PM

I'm really interested in seeing how this works out for you. I am pretty sure I don't have the manual dexterity or steady hands for this, but am very interested in how this would be done.

Jeff

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morio66 replied on Thu, Feb 4 2016 10:30 PM

I am trying to send Axel S an e-mail, but the are using an insane kind of Prüfcode.

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morio66 replied on Thu, Feb 4 2016 10:30 PM

I am trying to send Axel S an e-mail, but the are using an insane kind of Prüfcode.

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I had a loose cantilever, so got to open the cartridge. Now what should I do? Re-glue the cantilever cross to the suspension? Are there supposed to be any wire connections on the back?

 

Thanks for any help :)

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Hi,

Audio Origin UK based B&O cartridge and stylus repairs,

http://www.audio-origin.co.uk/retipping-stylus.html

Best regards Alistair

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chartz replied on Thu, Mar 15 2018 11:22 AM
The bonded sphericals that Axel used were of poor quality (I had two done - the microscope tells the truth).

I do hope Alistair does a better job.

Jacques

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Beo_Jean replied on Thu, Mar 15 2018 12:25 PM

chartz:
The bonded sphericals that Axel used were of poor quality (I had two done - the microscope tells the truth).

 

I do hope Alistair does a better job.

Jacques, what microscope you use to inspect your needles?  I'm looking for one but don't want to spend thousands on this alone...

Thanks!

 

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chartz replied on Thu, Mar 15 2018 9:30 PM

I have a science lab microscope.

Jacques

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Beo_Jean replied on Fri, Mar 16 2018 1:17 PM

Thank you Sir!

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Beo_Jean replied on Fri, Mar 16 2018 1:17 PM

Thank you Sir!

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Spassmaker replied on Fri, Mar 23 2018 12:38 PM

Almiscarado

Plesse let us know how you got this stupid thing out of the cartrigde housing.

Is it glued inside?

Heatgun?

Did you cut the thin wires from the coils while you pulled out the black plastic with the contacts?

Did you get it back to play propper?

Thanks for reply.

Best regards

Christian

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chartz replied on Fri, Mar 23 2018 12:55 PM

He simply destroyed his cartridge. There!

Jacques

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Hello,

There is a chance that cartridge can still be rebuilt, but it is a very bad way to open it

here are the newest specs available,

Nude Mirco Ridge diamond sapphire cantilever

Nude Mirco Ridge diamond boron cantilever

Best regards Alistair

 

 

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