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I would like to airplay music to my Beolabs that are connected to my BV7. There are obviously many easy ways to do so, but all of these require me to turn on the BV7 with the remote, which I'd like to avoid.
I have been thinking of two ways, but would like to hear more ideas:
1) Via ML/NL adapeter (BLC)I believe this works as I could connect a AE to the BLC and then BLC via ML with the BV. Only issue is that this will not work with airplay 2 as AE does not support it and the ATV does not have an audio-out
2) HDMI splitterI could buy an HDMI splitter and connect only the video signal to the BV and the audio signal to the Beolabs directlty. I would lose surround and only have 2+0 or maybe 2+1? Also, use of the splitter would mean yet another ugly box that needs power and potentially degrading of audio quality? And not sure what cable I'd need to connect from the splitter to the Beolabs (2+1).
Any thoughts about the two or other options?
can you attach a PM to your BV7? or say an essence for it to also work?
how about page 36
https://beointegration.com/uploaded/Idea_Catalogue_v3.2.pdf
Aussie Michael: can you attach a PM to your BV7? or say an essence for it to also work?
I don't think either of the two support / will ever support airplay 2?
Sure the Essence (2nd gen) will.
But since you are not willing to ‘push a button’, it won’t help you!
When the Essence is connected to the BV, this would have to be activated first.
Still this is the easiest solution!
Other solutions with a PowerLink Switch - such as:
https://almando.com/almando-category/powerlink-switch/almando-powerlink-switch-stereo.html
will do the job - if you don’t mind the costs.
N.B. Don’t try to use a simple PL-splitter (one into two) - this could damage your speakers.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
steve1977: Maybe i’ll go back to the BLC (AE via line-in to BLC, BLC via ML to BV). assume this may work? Better than a HDMI splitter?
Maybe i’ll go back to the BLC (AE via line-in to BLC, BLC via ML to BV). assume this may work? Better than a HDMI splitter?
One less button to push, probably - since the line-in of the BLC has autosense (which might also switch on the BV).
But you would still have to turn off the tv/the system....pushing a button, if you can find the remote.
Oh - not quite sure about the first push of a button.
It would work so with a NL-tv - but since your tv is a BV7, it probably still will need a command from the remote to start.
Millemissen:One less button to push, probably - since the line-in of the BLC has autosense (which might also switch on the BV). But you would still have to turn off the tv/the system....pushing a button, if you can find the remote. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Millemissen:Oh - not quite sure about the first push of a button. It would work so with a NL-tv - but since your tv is a BV7, it probably still will need a command from the remote to start. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
No, autosense is different - this means that an input port is turned active, when it detects a sound input coming.
The BC2 does not turn on the tv - the command send to the BC2 can turn on the tv, when a ML conmunication is there....it passes on the command.
Note: this is dependent on option settings of the ML products.
(This communication - including turning on - can also be made through a scart connection from BC2 to the tv).
Where does HDMI come into play, when we are talking speakers?
HDMI is for data transfer and device communication - HDMI can turn on one device from another one......depending on version and device support.
As long as your speakers are connected to the BV, you will have to engage the tv.
In my experience the easiest way for you would be to use the ATV (and AirPlay) for sound/music.
Using the AV command before the actual command for the ATV (one example could be AV - V.MEM) will turn on the BV with a muted screen and sound from the front speakers/stereo....
.....assuming the speaker configuration is so for audio only (Speaker 2).
I am not quite sure how your setup is.
You write about the BLC, yet you only mention the two ML-products (the BV7 and the BC2).
In one post you did mention ‘BS1’ - do you actually have some NL-components in the setup.
But, you are right - setting it up as you mention will show how it works - it will be interesting to hear about the result.
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
leogoeswild:Can you connect a RCA splitter to the speakers and simply connect the BV7 and an AE directly? As long as you don’t play both sources at once it shouldn’t be a problem.
As long as you don’t play both sources at once it shouldn’t be a problem.
You are right - that might work. But it is nothing that I would advice!
If someone does it, it will be at his own risk.....and not because I gave that advice!
(Apart from that I am not sure that it will be very comfortable respectively precise to adjust the volume playing to the AE).
In addition to the Almando switch solution, I mentioned in an earlier post, there is a (similar) solution from OneRemote:
PowerLink Switch
OneRemote Type 30017742
Thanks to another poster in another theead I remered that.
You can read about it here:
https://w3.oneremote.dk/oneremote/admin/typer/vejledninger/30017742u2uk.pdf
How do you imagine the HDMI splitter to be connected to a speaker?
A BeoLab speaker needs a line-signal from an audio device/BV either via PL or RCA-L/R - HDMI is another cup of tea.
Or do you mean a device that can seperate the audio signal from HDMI - usually called HDMI Audio Extractor:
https://www.amazon.de/Expresstech-Digitaler-Konverter-Toslink-Converter/dp/B07236H26Q
Well, no - you’d have to connect your BeoLabs twice, then.
Once for the RCA-R/L from the extractor AND also from the tv using PL.
And you would only send a 2 channel signal to the tv........or would have to flit the swich on the extractor each time you swap.
I tried the BLC, but unfortunately not working. It sill requires me to use the Beo4 to select the channel. It would work if I connect the BLs directly via PL to the BLC, but not when connecting the BLC to the BV7. That's a pity...
It seems my only option will indeed be one of these Amando boxes you referred earlier. Besides cost, this would also require me to buy a second ATV for airplay-2 or an AE for airplay-1. Lots of money, cables and boxes for what I would have hoped to be a common use case.
...and why is it, that you don’t want to turn on the BV - using the AV command to get a muted screen and audio only from the ATV???
P.S. That is the ‘common use case’ ;-)
I know that this may be the common use case. But it's also a use case that exists as the "better" use case is not available or at least not available without significant cost / effort.
It does require me to use basically two "remotes". First I need to go into Apple Music to decide what I want to listen to and select the speakers/rooms where to play them to. Then I need to take the Beoremote to switch on the TV. If I am not in the room at this time, it will require me to walk over to the room, find the remote and turn it on. I know it is not a huge deal, but all other music (BS1, A9, non-B&O devices) has started playing at this stage already.
Also on a minor note, the Beoremote One does not allow me to program what you are describing (AV.DVD), but I need to first turn on the BV with DVD and then yet again skim through the menus to select P.Mute. With the Beo4, it at least was just one button to program. Anyhow, that's not my main issue.
I think my preferred use case may become more obvious once airplay-2 is more widely adopted and the FW updates reach the B&O devices to enable airplay-2. In a single-room setup, the inconvenience to using two remotes is less pronounced than in a multi-room setup. But more and more people may see an inconvenience to physically go to rooms and take out a remote to have audio playing in this room.
@steve1977
You are using a BV7 - don’t expect that to react like a modern BV, that may be a part of a multiroom setup.
As for the BROne: this was not designed for the BV7 - therefore there may be some incompatibilities.
By the way - there will never be a B&O or other tv that will react directly to an AirPlay command, since Apple does not allow for a built-in AirPlay (2) receiver in tv’s. You will always have to push a button in order to activate the choosen input port. And there will NEVER be an update for your BV7, that could change this.
Only solution here is a soundbar with built-in AirPlay support....
.....or the BV Eclipse, where the Sound Center also reacts directly.
steve1977:I tried the BLC, but unfortunately not working. It sill requires me to use the Beo4 to select the channel. It would work if I connect the BLs directly via PL to the BLC, but not when connecting the BLC to the BV7. That's a pity...
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