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BC 9500 + RL60.2 + BEOVOX PENTAS setup

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pcbailey Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2012 2:04 PM

hi guys , just had a new addition to by B&O system comprising of a set of passive pentas . just wondering if there was a preffered setup with my RL60.2s , the problem i am finding is that at mid to high volume levels   volume clipping kicks in and messes with the  sound . I know that this is to protect the various componants from overload but was wondering if there was a prefference to which speaker ports are used for which speaker - thanks in advance

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I am afraid that the problem is possibly lack of power in the amp to drive the two pairs of speakers to med/high sound levels.

Which sockets  the speakers are connected to is irrelevent

Regards Graham

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tournedos replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 7:13 PM

As Graham said the BC9500 isn't really up to driving two pairs of largish passive speakers at the same time at big volume. The no. 1 & 2 speaker ports are simply connected in parallel, so it won't make any difference how you connect them - the Beocenter will always struggle if you have them both playing.

My advice is to choose a pair (the Pentas obviously Big Smile ) and use them.

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pcbailey replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 8:05 PM

chers guys - i thought as much but wasn't sure .  the next question is ..... I have already got a 5 pin din  plug ready to wire up to an rca lead to link to an amplifier , the only problem is that i have found conflicting wiring diagrams to which pins will give me a controlled low-level output  from the powerlink socket on the back of the 9500 . budget will decide on the amp of choice ( not a great amount) but as long as i can find the right pin combination i think i will be ok - ebay sells an already wired lead set  but i am more than competant of creating such lead as long as i know the configuration. does anyone have such a lead that definatly works that they could take a quick peek for me - thanks for all your input - Pete

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pcbailey replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 8:08 PM

wasn't sure on the relivancy,  as when i 'mute ' the system only one pair goes off - - pete

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Evan replied on Sat, Apr 28 2012 10:40 PM
Hi Pete,

Your decision to use an external amplifier is an excellent one.

On your din plug, solder pin 3 for the left channel audio, pin 5 for the right and pin 2 for the ground.

If you want to get fancy and trigger your new amp to turn on via dc trigger, use pin 4 for a dc constant. This circuit should be grounded to the same signal chassis as mentioned above.

Good luck!!

Beo4 'til I die!

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pcbailey replied on Sun, Apr 29 2012 10:34 AM

just thinking - would a beomaster 5000 be of any use to me ? i dont know if they would work toether off the same 1000 remote controll or if the powerlink would work on them

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Andrew replied on Mon, Apr 30 2012 8:53 AM

Hi think the BM5000 uses a different remote control, the 5500 would work with a BL1000 though. but you would have a problem if they are in the same room and would have set it so that it works as a Link amplifier - i.e Link and then the command - I think!

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pcbailey replied on Mon, May 21 2012 6:40 AM

just picked up a beomaster 5500 and used the powerlink from the back of my 9500 - works a treat !

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Zorbas replied on Mon, Oct 1 2012 3:38 PM

Good afternoon folks !

This is the nearest thread to deal with my own BC 9500 technical questions.  Forgive me for hijacking it briefly.

 First question to the aficionados:

 I'm already running 4  (2 left / 2 right)  Beolab 8000s with my BC 9500 and BG 4500. Q: Can I also hook-up my Beovox RL 6000s to the passive sockets and so run 6 speakers alltogether ??   I  have a good-size living/dining room and would like to wall mount the RL 6000s high up close to the ceiling and slightly angled downwards.   Your advice will be invaluable (before I start drilling)

Second question:

The CD drive on the BC 9500 has recently devoped an anoying  squeak / squeal from the spindle, which, allthough not noticeable while music is playing, does become challenging between tracks or when listening to  vocal Radio-shows at lower volume.  is there anything I can grease or clean to remedy ??     I have partially dismantled the BC several times already, for door strings, Cap- Kit, mute relay,  Cassette-drive,  so I'm OK with  a bit of DIY.

Thanks for any advice you can offer.

Best wishes

Neil

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Peter replied on Mon, Oct 1 2012 4:09 PM

As far as the speakers go, you could do but the volume will be difficult to balance and I think the RLs will add little to the quality.

On the squeal, I imagine that this could be wear in the bearing and I am not sure lubrication will help. However I am happy to defer to the more mechanically gifted advisers here!

Peter

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Peter:
As far as the speakers go, you could do but the volume will be difficult to balance and I think the RLs will add little to the quality.

Agreed here - the Beolabs don't put any load at all on the Beocenter, so in theory you could add even two pairs of passive speakers (with the same caveats as in my previous post above)... but I can't see what good it would do.

Regarding the noise, check first that the mechanism is free to bounce on its supports. You should be able to press it down slightly at each corner when the lid is open. It's easy to slightly mislocate the springs etc. while reinstalling the mechanism or closing the top cover.

Other than that, I think a likely suspect might the freewheeling part of the clamp, on the arm that swings with the lid movement. Guess you could try a minuscule amount of sewing machine oil there (you don't want it running down and spreading everywhere while the CD spins).

--mika

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Zorbas replied on Mon, Oct 1 2012 7:10 PM

Many thanks chaps !

your advice is extremely helpful, and has saved me a days work drilling, wiring and making-good.

Tomorrow I'll open the BC and try to pin-point the squeal even further.   I'll post the result later in the week.

Grateful thanks

Neil

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Zorbas replied on Sat, Oct 6 2012 1:21 PM

Thanks again here to Mika  & Peter !!

Mika,

you were spot-on !

I opened the BC into service position and indeed the CD unit was out-of-level.  In fact, the front right rubber bush, sitting within the damping spring was twisted /deformed and partly brittle. This stopped the 2mm locating thread from seating down and probably affected the damping. That corner of the unit was also Ca. 2mm  higher than the other 3.  TBO I'm surprised it played at-all ?

I sparingly oiled the parts you recommended, realigned the rubber bush (I guess I should replace it)  eased the whole unit down into proper place and reassembled the BC.

 

Fazit:

Although there is still some whistle / squeal from the spindle it's tolerable and only noticeable when I stand directly in-front of the BC.

All in all a success.

Grateful thanks and further successes to you (and Peter)

kindest regards

 

Neil

 

 

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Thanks to you for posting the outcome! It may help somebody else in the future as well.

I have two Beocenters of this series, and they both make a little noise (zip-zip-zip...) while the CD is spinning. I doubt they were completely silent even when new, the door doesn't offer much sound insulation compared to more conventional front loading CD decks.

--mika

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