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will the eclipse get the c9 panel or some other
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Malcolm welborn
malcolm welborn: will the eclipse get the c9 panel or some other
This has been discussed many times in many threads!
Some people are saying there's an Eclipse v2 coming, others say it's not coming any time soon.
Remember you can't just plonk the panel in an Eclipse. Still needs custom work from LG. My guess is B&O commits to a certain number and hasn't sold them all yet.
I think this is correct,
The Eclipse will not disappear, but until the current are sold out we wont now what is going to happen.
The dealer I talked to, assured that it was not going away but how have not been told to the dealers yet.
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Had contact with 2 dealers they both told me to wait for the MK II if I was interesten in buying one.
Also they both told me the panels would be “updatable” take of current one and put on a newer model.
The hardware should support this.
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Zanpaqto: Also they both told me the panels would be “updatable” take of current one and put on a newer model.
I really worry about this info. The panel has custom LG parts. I guess any new panel (from B&O) will have custom LG parts to enable you to do this, but would you want to? Think of the cost!
I can't imagine the 'panel' part of the Eclipse v2 would be much under £5000. I agree I would wait for any v2, but if I was a v1 user I wouldn't personally spend that to get a relatively marginal visual upgrade.
What makes you thing that moxxey? Why would they not do it just like the Harmony via a regular vesa mount?
The V1 eclipse has custom parts, which makes it a lot harder to support, so why would they want to do that all over again?
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Mikipidia: What makes you thing that moxxey?
What makes you thing that moxxey?
Think what?
Why would the Eclipse v2 have custom lg parts? Why would they not ditch that and just use a standard screen and make that fit?
They could of course, but that then becomes a different product no?
I'm still of the opinion that its 50/50 at best that any V2 will ever appear.
They have a 65 and 77 inch TV, in the Harmony.
I can see why may want something 55 (or smaller), but maintaining a V2 65 Eclipse would potentially cannibalise the 65 Harmony sales.
I know there has been overlap before, Avant 55 and BV11/4 55 overlapped, but I'm not convinced they'll do the same.
That was when they offered a broad-ish range of TVs - those days seem to have gone from what I can see.
Mikipidia: Why would the Eclipse v2 have custom lg parts? Why would they not ditch that and just use a standard screen and make that fit?
Overlap in panel size only makes sense if its 2 completely different products, and I agree. Harmony and Eclipse might be too close.
Unlike BV8-40 and BV7-40 or Horizon 40 and BV11-40 if it makes sense.
I still would like to see the Eclipse in the future though.
It is quite easy to imagine a V2 "Eclipse":
1- Take the DSS board of the Harmony and put it in a compact enclosure like the actual Eclipse Sound Center.
2- Design a stand with a VESA plate or an arrangement like the Canvas.
3- Fit a stock LG panel at the top and re-use the B&O software of the Harmony.
This system may even work with different screen brands, like the Stage, although with reduced functionality. Thus, this product may fulfill two roles: the functional equivalent of an Eclipse when a LG screen is fitted, or merely a soundbar with Powerlink and PUC when a screen of another brand is installed.
The only challenge is mechanical (elegant fit) rather than electronic.
Regards,
Jean
Any manufacturer looks to improve economies of scale and to achieve this you use existing designs, existing modelling and so on.
If you take a standard C9 and plonk it on top of a speaker, what makes it an Eclipse for £10K versus a C9 & Stage for around £3.5K inc stand?
moxxey:Any manufacturer looks to improve economies of scale and to achieve this you use existing designs, existing modelling and so on. If you take a standard C9 and plonk it on top of a speaker, what makes it an Eclipse for £10K versus a C9 & Stage for around £3.5K inc stand?
Mikipidia:Surround sound decoder/trueimage Swivel stand Wisa Powerlink Puc Space for your apple tv
Swivel stand
Wisa
Powerlink
Puc
Space for your apple tv
Don't need swivel stand. Powerlink isn't important as the Stage (or Eclipse speaker is so good), PUC you kind of get with the C9 (you can use a BeoRemote) and you can easily put an Apple TV on the rear.
But you miss my point - the poster said above that he wanted a more 'basic' design which wasn't a custom LG panel and just sit it on top of the existing Eclipse speaker.
And my £3500 incorporated the cost of a potential stand. I still don't see where the remaining £6500 is if you lose the custom LG work.
I think quite a few people want the ability to expand the Stage / Centre speaker (whatever you call it) and add sub / surrounds etc.
As such, I think Powerlink would be very important.
And a good number of people actually do want the motorised stands / wall mounts - I use the motorised wall mount for my bedroom TV, and whilst not critical in my case, its pretty useful at times.
Having these things integrated is worth a premium - though I can understand that 6k is hard to rationalise for some.
Anyway, my best guess is that this discussion is academic for this year.
moxxey: Mikipidia:Surround sound decoder/trueimage Swivel stand Wisa Powerlink Puc Space for your apple tv Don't need swivel stand. Powerlink isn't important as the Stage (or Eclipse speaker is so good), PUC you kind of get with the C9 (you can use a BeoRemote) and you can easily put an Apple TV on the rear. But you miss my point - the poster said above that he wanted a more 'basic' design which wasn't a custom LG panel and just sit it on top of the existing Eclipse speaker. And my £3500 incorporated the cost of a potential stand. I still don't see where the remaining £6500 is if you lose the custom LG work.
Wikipedia answer your question why the Eclipse is worth the money, and then you write stuff you don't need. Do you get the point?
You pay premium for premium features, if you don't use it and can't justify the price, fine. But some of us actually use all the features and can't find a deal as good any where in the market.