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A1 2nd Gen launched

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Hiort Posted: Thu, May 14 2020 8:37 AM

 

Nice review by John:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0MvRlr-Lng

Available om B&O page:

https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/speakers/beosound-a1

 

But why Alexa rather than Google....

 

 

 

 

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How does Alexa work, can it connect to the internet or?

 

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Hiort replied on Thu, May 14 2020 9:07 AM

Emil Jensen:

How does Alexa work, can it connect to the internet or?

 

The feature require a connection to your phone. Alexa is available 3 hours after you shut the A1 off, so there is some standby function. But the phone needs still to be available.

 

 

 

 

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Normann replied on Thu, May 14 2020 9:23 AM

Hiort:

 

Nice review by John:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0MvRlr-Lng

Available om B&O page:

https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/speakers/beosound-a1

 

But why Alexa rather than Google....

I don't understand B&O sometimes... Why have they dropped out Google for Alexa on this product??? They seems to jump around in search for a solution, and can't decide the path forward in time...

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But it is clearly not the same function,

The beosounds with Google assist is by them self on wifi,

This is apparently not, so maybe google cannot be used this way???

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Hiort replied on Thu, May 14 2020 9:59 AM

Emil Jensen:

This is apparently not, so maybe google cannot be used this way???

That is a possible explanation.

 

 

 

 

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1990 replied on Thu, May 14 2020 10:04 AM

I guess the difference is that you can use Google Assistant and Siri too, but you have to press the microphone button instead of just talking to the speaker itself.

Alexa is coming to the Balance as well. B&O aim to become “agnostic” but the ways to implement these voice assistants are more dependent on Amazon and Google than on B&O I think.

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1990 replied on Thu, May 14 2020 10:06 AM

And in a way you can think of the reason why only Alexa can be used this way in a Bluetooth speaker: if you use GVA or Siri, your phone is already listening to you. So you don’t need a third party speaker to act as a microphone.

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"B&O says this is the first Bluetooth-only speaker with Alexa “fully integrated.”

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Daniel replied on Thu, May 14 2020 12:02 PM

I like it a lot. The design changes are minor but somehow it looks more modern with a fresh look. I think it will continue the success story of the A1. What I don’t like is the status LED in the grille though. When it’s off you always see that one dark spot where the LED sits. 

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rgbyhkr replied on Thu, May 14 2020 12:50 PM

One key question would be if moving to BT 5.1 improves the reliability of the stereo pair connection.  I’ve tried that on first gen A1s, but dropouts have discouraged me from using it more often - which is a shame because they really do sound great in stereo.  I have successfully used a wired solution with a L/R splitter and separate 3.5mm cable runs to each speaker, but that really defeats the benefit of being able to wirelessly stereo pair.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, May 14 2020 1:11 PM
I notice it also has Apple, Google, and Microsoft fast pair. I have not heard those terms before. Are they something new, or just new terminology? I also see that the B and O app has been updated to add the ability to sign in with one’s Apple account when setting up products.

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Ferdinand replied on Thu, May 14 2020 1:12 PM

Can the new A1 be used without Alexa (it can) But I mean without any kind of account / subscription to Amazon to get it installed/working.

I contacted my dealer today actually to get an A1 'OG' but they were sold out. I can think of still buying the new A1 then but any pre-registration like with the GVA Beasounds is a no go for me.

 

 

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Mikipidia replied on Thu, May 14 2020 1:30 PM
Ferdinand:

Can the new A1 be used without Alexa (it can) But I mean without any kind of account / subscription to Amazon to get it installed/working.

I contacted my dealer today actually to get an A1 'OG' but they were sold out. I can think of still buying the new A1 then but any pre-registration like with the GVA Beasounds is a no go for me.

Yes no problem, that’s how i’ve been using the gen2.

It’s a big inprovement over the mk1 in terms of sound, amazing they pulled it off like this again Big Smile

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Daniel replied on Thu, May 14 2020 4:25 PM

I was lucky to order an A1 from my dealer in Natural Brushed last minute. It has to be the first Contrast Collection product to be discontinued then. 

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mbee replied on Thu, May 14 2020 4:35 PM

I really like the A1, for me it's the best portable speaker inherited from Beoplay. 

Only 2 colors: black & aluminum : ok, we see that the path for A LOT of limited color collections is open! Strange that they didn't release the classic green at start.

3 mics : if they are not only for Alexa, it could be the ultimate multipurpose home/office/garden/party conference speaker (ok, there is absolutely no other product in this category)! 

Nice that they managed to make it thinner and still improve the sound.

Better battery performance and full water resistance are also nice bonus.

One thing that is not cool in this range of products : battery is not replaceable : I do not buy B&O as disposable products.

Ah, and the LED at the top fixes the main issue for me : I was always looking at the full circle to find the status LED!

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Mikipidia replied on Thu, May 14 2020 4:59 PM

I just finished and uploaded my review on the Gen 2 A1 for anyone interested Big Smile

https://youtu.be/FOQ8mXK8XEI

 

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moxxey replied on Thu, May 14 2020 5:50 PM

Daniel:

I was lucky to order an A1 from my dealer in Natural Brushed last minute. It has to be the first Contrast Collection product to be discontinued then. 

I also bought one, discounted - £159. Can't complain about the price. I also feel it's an upgrade from my early A1 which I bought when first launched. Feels like a far deeper and stronger sound.

Also, I use my A1 more than any other B&O product. I take in the terrace and all over.

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I went to buy one today, but I found the sound to be metallic and cold. Will buy a 1.gen again when they are discounted.

Just my personal opinion and taste in sound.

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Irvine replied on Fri, May 15 2020 2:27 AM

I had the same opinion you did, Leo. I just got the charcoal sand one (v.1) literally two days ago and I love the warmth of the sound. I also particularly like that color. They made me a very good deal on it and I just think it will have a good rich sound for a long time.

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mbee replied on Fri, May 15 2020 8:20 AM

Thanks Irvine, the A1 is now even better than I thought Big Smile

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mbee replied on Fri, May 15 2020 8:21 AM

We'll just have to figure out if the waterproofing of the gen2 didn't make the battery replacement too complicated...

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As for waterproof 

https://youtu.be/N66cBpaMhzA

Also it might be time for some new Beobrew IPA from Mikkeller.

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Ferdinand replied on Fri, May 15 2020 4:05 PM

I have now ordered my A1 2nd gen at my dealer. Will get it Tuesday / Wednesday Gift

 

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moxxey replied on Fri, May 15 2020 5:55 PM

leosgonewild:
I went to buy one today, but I found the sound to be metallic and cold.

Where did you hear the 2nd generation? Sure it was the new one? I'd be amazed if it's worst than by new (1st gen) Brushed Steel A1? Sounds amazing for the size!

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Mikipidia replied on Fri, May 15 2020 7:02 PM
I find it hard to believe that is was mettalic or cold unless there was something wrong with it or not the gen 2 or someone messed with the soundprofile. It’s still very bassy, just not as excessively as the gen 1 is and you get all the mids and high’s back the gen 1 sort of muffles a bit.

Iam still amazed listening to both that the gen 2 is so much betterBig Smile

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moxxey replied on Sat, May 16 2020 11:02 AM

Mikipidia:
I find it hard to believe that is was mettalic or cold unless...

I do think some people's expectations are too high. When you're used to listening to BL20s, 50s or 90s and you listen to an A1 it's a huge compromise. But you have to take into account a) the size and b) the portability.

I must admit though, the Megaboom is a far better portable speaker and completely waterproof: https://www.ultimateears.com/en-us/wireless-speakers/megaboom-3.html

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Ferdinand replied on Wed, May 20 2020 7:04 AM

Mine arrived with the mail yesterday Lets have a Party !!!

Just have to get my head around how to get best use of it, it is my first bluetooth speaker.

On my iPhone for example I have to reconnect to the A1 every time I want to start using it.

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Ferdinand replied on Wed, May 20 2020 7:08 AM

My B&O app is in Dutch, but how do start / activate sw update? With cable only perhaps? In the app there is no additional step after [there is a sw update available]

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I am surprised it isn’t using micro-usb Big Smile

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Ferdinand replied on Wed, May 20 2020 9:08 AM
I know Leo, why make it easy if you can do difficult Big Smile

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I also have some top secret inside information:

It might be released some more Colours in the future.

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TWG replied on Wed, May 20 2020 11:08 AM

The new Bang & Olufsen tag on the leather band looks very very good and it's very nice that the buttons seem to be better (more tactile) and it is completely water proof now!

I have to listen to the new A1 as I prefer the clearer, more natural sound instead of too much bass. But I'll wait for new colors... ;-)


Razlaw:
I notice it also has Apple, Google, and Microsoft fast pair. I have not heard those terms before. Are they something new, or just new terminology? I also see that the B and O app has been updated to add the ability to sign in with one’s Apple account when setting up products.




These companies are missing there simplicity in terms of usability. Why not use NFC standard which is availabe for >6 years. You just hold two devices together (e.g. tap the NFC area on your Bluetooth headphones with yout NFC mobile phone) eh voilà: Pairing initiated. Works like a charme on my Sony phones since 2014.

 

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