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Good afternoon, I am new to this forum and I have the following question:
We currently own a Beovision Avant 32” (16 years old with the DVD-player) and the following speakers: Beolab 2, 2 x Beolab 6000 and 2 x Beolab 8000. The Avant is still doing well, but we can wait for the moment it will die.
I am currently investigating the following options:
1. Buy a 55” Beovision Eclipse. We heard/saw it at a Bang & Olufsen store. Impressive! Does it make sense to buy such an impressive and expensive Eclipse, when the soundcenter is only used as a centre speaker (I want to connect the current speakers to the Eclipse)?
2. Buy a 55” LG C9 with the Beosound Stage. Not the current Beosound stage, but wait for the, unofficially mentioned, version to which I can connect all my current speakers.
Please give me your thoughts. Thanks in advanced
Yes, I dont believe a fully featured sound centre is imminent at all.
Now, there may be something in the way that the Eclipse V2 (apparently soon, not so sure myself) is constructed that allows people to buy the sound part alone and use it as the fully featured sound centre.
So it may well be that what you are looking for is indeed the non screen part of the V2 Eclipse, whenever that might be available.
Either way, don't hold your breath.
On Saturday I was at my local B&O shop, he mentioned a "Extended" Stage with Wisa capabilities for later the year...make your own guess here :-)
Not sure if I would buy a Eclipse today with the old panel, but maybe it is worth to discuss with the dealer if you could get a Eclipse without a screen and go for the C9. Looks like from the above post that this works...
The Eclipse Sound Center must be what a lot of us need. Even though the price of the Eclipse is much cheaper than my 12 years old 7-40, I wound not dare to throw money at the Eclipse - imagine the screen dies in 3 years, then you can throw the whole thing out... I do not like the Harmony at all, and the sizes available are way to big for my living room. The Stage is probably a good plug and play soundbar, but what are the options for us used to surround? The answer is the Eclipse Sound Center, which already exists - it's even in the pricelist at DKK 30.000 (app. 2 x the price of the smoked oak Stage). I think that is a fair price, and I would buy it immediately. So the thing is there, they just need to add a vesa bracket. (Let's not go into the discussion of why the Eclipse Sound Center for the 65" screen adds 50% to the price...) Fingers crossed my 7-40 will last until they release this or similar solution.
I totally agree, that the Sound Center is actually put at a good price, when or if sold separately ;-)
I really hope that B&O will release a Stage version with PowerLink connections but I think they will go the easy way and just add Wisa. People would either need to buy new speakers with Wisa support or add Beolab Receivers.
Sound center with a rotating foot, plug any LG Oled inside, would be my dream
I agree with you: I want a new Eclipse with C9 LG.I do not like Harmony with a "panzerwagen display"
You really believe it is possible to by an Eclipse without a screen and put LG C9 inside? If you have more info about this, it will be my choice for replacing my 21 year old Avant !
I have been in the same dilemma and my conclusions are that the Eclipse is far to expensive; a pane replacement will be at significant cost and it cannot be upgraded; another thing to consider is longevity of oled panels, on AV forums there are a significant minority who have had multiple screen replacements due to faults- and LG is sympathetically replacing said screens. I doubt B&O would be so helpful.
If, like me, you have additional B&O speakers ; even if the stage MK2 has Wisa, the quality of sound I would have thought be lacking- its all about the sound processing and having recently moved from a BS3 to a BS4 based system I can vouch for a significant change in audio quality. Surely B&O will not provide such a cheap mechanism to bypass their own TV offerings.
Could you provide som more info om how you attached the LG C9 and what this setup will require please? I bought an Eclipse too and is currently considering the Harmony due to the fact that I cannot update the LG C7 panel.
Hi,
Here are the Eclipse and Harmony Sound Center Prices :
XE.com 20th June 2020 : 1 EUR = 7,45684 DKK
Price for the Eclipse Sound Center 55 inch :
Price for the Eclipse Sound Center 65 inch :
Price for the Harmony Sound Center :
I would buy the Harmony Sound System alone and upgrade with newer Oled screen. Screen being the part that depreciate de most financially.
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Hi Mikipedia,
You are right, I edited my post and made the correction.
Not sure about the size of the Eclipse in the price list tho'.
Thanks
I have a similar setup, worth some details here
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/42604/310808.aspx#310808
1. It definitely makes sense.....depending on your room and how you set things up.
2. You are waiting for something, that we don’t know anything about....maybe it won’t come?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I've just bought an LG GX 55" + Stage and have no real complaints at all! Picture is better than I had anticipated and I even quite like the LG remote (waiting a firmware upgrade so I can use the BeoRemote).
So impressed I've already asked my dealer to set aside a 65" GX for another room.
The crux is this: the 55" and 65", two TVs with 2020 panels, both with Stage sound bars = cheaper than 1 x Eclipse 55"
So your #3 option now includes the standalone Soundcentre ..... which seems to be exactly the same as that in the eclipse.
So anyone worried about buying an eclipse - and not being able to reuse the speaker should they eventually want to replace the screen should be ok - just unscrew the TV from the speaker - and plug in something new.
At least Im hoping it works that way as it makes my plan of getting a soundcentre for my LG CX 55 make a lot more sense ...
I might need to ask the local store to borrow a stage to see if its all i actually need on the main TV (and finally jettison my 20year old lab 6000’s) OR really cements the idea of getting the soundcentre.
(Life would be so much easier if there was as much info on the B&O site about the standalone sound centre as there is about the eclipse AND i could see it at a local store).
what do you mean ''stand alone sound center''? B&O doesn't sell it that way, if you run in to issues and you do have it this way with the CX, you're on your own etc. The reason they don't have much detail of it up is that it's not really a B&O product, just a part of another one.
Yes they do - see https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/42604/310808.aspx#310808 Ive also been quoted prices for it from Australia - 55” Soundcentre is AU$6450
Harmony sound center is officially sold separately by dealers, no mystery there.
Eclipse is not typically sold separately as B&O still has C7 panels to sell and mounting options are not as straight forward as with the Harmony SC. Some dealers have made exceptions or have found a way to sell a factory refurbished unit.