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Eclipse 2nd Generation Finally launched

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Emil Jensen Posted: Mon, Nov 2 2020 1:43 PM

It arrived :D 

https://www.bang-olufsen.com/da/fjernsyn/beovision-eclipse?variant=beovision-eclipse-positioning-floor-stand

Nothing special or new,

Now with the GX panel, and E-ARC,

Nothing more than expected.

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Link doesn't work

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Try this:

Link

It is just their normal homepage with the Eclipse

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Michael replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 2:20 PM
Seems there is an new oak color “light” which looks really nice!

With the new SoundCenter supporting eArc there should also be support for:

Uncompressed 5.1 and 7.1 sound

Ethernet via the TV (no need for two connections).

Dolby Atmos and DTS:X (just a license necessary).

Perfect lip sync support

According to the comparison chart the new eclipse also features a new ambient light sensor solution (part of the tv I guess).

New eclipse also show metadata of music services when streaming/casting.

And of course webOS 5 instead of the old 3.5.

It seems LG removed DTS support in the 2020 models. Not sure what this means for beovision eclipse but a bit worry some.

The new panel is also HomeKit compliant so it should also be a boost in system functionality.

I wish they would include the new size info but it seems unavailable at now. No photos showing the design changes and side pictures have been completely removed. Weird choice.

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Very keen to see the official pricelist pdf with part numbers. Looking for retrofit VESA adapter as well as standalone SoundCenter price.

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No license for dolby atmos or dts:x mentioned, so not available. I somehow doubt dolby will just give that out and wonder how they would have 2 upscalers active/switch between them on the fly...

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Michael replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 3:25 PM

Mikipidia:
No license for dolby atmos or dts:x mentioned, so not available. I somehow doubt dolby will just give that out and wonder how they would have 2 upscalers active/switch between them on the fly...

Seems a bit sad but I wonder why that is. B&O is doing a campaign about home theatre and having the best sound, builts some of the worlds best speakers and seem to not care about that in the other end of the spectrum. A bit odd, right? Especially at that price point..

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Curious what it will cost to replace my C7 for a GX panel and if the C7 panel can be re used as stand alone or with a Stage connected.

Any ideas already?

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Fansastic:
Curious what it will cost to replace my C7 for a GX panel and if the C7 panel can be re used as stand alone or with a Stage connected.

 

 

Any ideas already?

The soundcenter have also been changed, so I do not think you can do that.

Sell the old complete and buy a new would be the way to go.

But what are you missing in the "old" can't see a reason to upgrade other than functions for the new consoles.

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No, custom panel and no speakers in it. Also the milling is different for the new panels to sit in the top of it.

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Think it would look very bad for B&O if they left out the Mk1 owners with no upgrade path (keeping the soundcenter). These C7 panels will inevitably die or have serious issues within a few years.

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moxxey replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 5:24 PM

flatwhite:

Very keen to see the official pricelist pdf with part numbers. Looking for retrofit VESA adapter as well as standalone SoundCenter price.

I'm considering taking the 55" off the wall (leaving the GX 65" wall-mounted) and adding the stand and sound bar....if it's justifiable. I do fear that those two components alone will be around £6000+

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Michael replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 5:28 PM
Mikipidia:

No, custom panel and no speakers in it. Also the milling is different for the new panels to sit in the top of it. New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0

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Where is this information? In one of the photos it looks like the unit is elevated and sitting in a mounting bracket so I gathered it was just an adaptor used to fit the new panel to the current soundcenter.

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moxxey replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 5:31 PM

flatwhite:

Think it would look very bad for B&O if they left out the Mk1 owners with no upgrade path (keeping the soundcenter). These C7 panels will inevitably die or have serious issues within a few years.

I don't think the new soundbar is designed (bottom part with 'fake panel') around the C7, so would be very surprised if you could upgrade or drop a GX panel in to the Eclipse v1 sound center - the bottom panel would look odd and not fit the GX profile?

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For refence, Harmony Sound Center prices (DKK, Sept 1 pricelist)

 

7102 Beovision Harmony Sound Center 62.000,-    = 8325 EUR

172100 Mounting bracket til 65" skærm 2.200,-  = 295 EUR

7106 Front - grey melangé 9.500,-

7107 Front - oak, bronze tone/valnød, brass tone/smoked oak 18.500,-

7113 Floor stand - silver, bronze tone, brass tone 4.100,-

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I waited for v2, but looking at the specs, i buy the v1 (55) Winkand save 2500 euros. Smile

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355f replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 6:07 PM

I think you might find the saving shortsighted  how  long will B&O keep spare 2017 panels  Max 5 years- You might find yourself with a very expensive paperweightas owners of other beovisions have found

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Emil Jensen:

The soundcenter have also been changed, so I do not think you can do that.

Sell the old complete and buy a new would be the way to go.

But what are you missing in the "old" can't see a reason to upgrade other than functions for the new consoles.

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The GX panel has a bit more crisp an clear picture and the webOs has the apple tv app. Overall a 2020 panel has advantages above a 2017 panel

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No, custom panel and no speakers in it. Also the milling is different for the new panels to sit in the top of it. New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0

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Hi Michael, do you think / know the V2 Eclipse also needs a new soundcenter or is only a new panel and some sort of adapter set needed?

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thorne replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 11:46 PM

Looks as though there is no motorised wall bracket with v2

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thorne replied on Mon, Nov 2 2020 11:46 PM

Looks as though there is no motorised wall bracket with v2

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Michael replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 11:46 AM

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Looks as though there is no motorised wall bracket with v2

Where did you see that?

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Puncher replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 12:08 PM

Its a bit of a stretch putting it on the TV page of the website - as a TV stand (+ speaker) it's an accessory at best!!

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Puncher:

Its a bit of a stretch putting it on the TV page of the website - as a TV stand (+ speaker) it's an accessory at best!!

Yes you can see it that way, because that is actully how it is.

But it is what Beovision is in the future, there is still a difference to the soundbar Stage.

Lets see how the new Contour is going to be, if it still distance itself from the Stage.

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Michael replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 1:10 PM
Emil Jensen:

Yes you can see it that way, because that is actully how it is.

But it is what Beovision is in the future, there is still a difference to the soundbar Stage.

Lets see how the new Contour is going to be, if it still distance itself from the Stage.

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Puncher replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 2:11 PM

Emil Jensen:
Yes you can see it that way, because that is actully how it is.
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thorne replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 2:58 PM

On the B&O website

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Michael replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 3:07 PM
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On the B&O website

Probably just not yet done. The website is also filled with faulty information. Wrong amount of ports etc. and the “old” generation is still available in two sizes.

The new one is only available in Europe for now and that is probably also due to something that’s on hold (regulations etc).

What I mean is that we can probably assume roll out is going to come but slowly. B&O is currently no masters at logistics it seems.

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Michael:

Contour is just a frame for an LG with the stage sadly.

Rumours say that the price will be north of 5k Euro.

Hoping it’s more than an LG + Stage for 2k Euro of price difference. Surprise

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moxxey replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 5:33 PM

OlivierC:
Hoping it’s more than an LG + Stage for 2k Euro of price difference. Surprise

Don't forget B&O just released a LE blue BeoSound 1 for north of 2100€, double the regular BeoSound 1 price (and has now sold out). So I would expect a premium of 2000€ for an aluminium framed Contour.

Also don't forget 95% of B&O's customers aren't on this forum and won't really understand the LG + Stage + custom frame. They'll simply see a 48" OLED TV!

And how come this thread has taken over the Contour thread...talking about the Contour Big Smile

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Sandyb replied on Tue, Nov 3 2020 5:46 PM
moxxey:

Don't forget B&O just released a LE blue BeoSound 1 for north of 2100€, double the regular BeoSound 1 price (and has now sold out). So I would expect a premium of 2000€ for an aluminium framed Contour.

Also don't forget 95% of B&O's customers aren't on this forum and won't really understand the LG + Stage + custom frame. They'll simply see a 48" OLED TV!

And how come this thread has taken over the Contour thread...talking about the Contour

Agreed- it’s confusing my little brain!

Back to the Eclipse v2 then....
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Michael replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 10:55 AM

B&O Manchester, as usual, has a good video again and this time on the topic of the new Eclipse and the differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ3Ph7w0GQ4

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Curly replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 1:07 PM

Pricing is only shown on the US website for the Harmony, not for the Eclipse. 
Any idea on pricing?

And since it takes an off-the-shelf GX panel, does that mean we can buy the sound center separately without a panel included?

Since the Harmony takes an off the-shelf panel, we can buy that sound center individually. Hoping the same here.

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Curly:

Pricing is only shown on the US website for the Harmony, not for the Eclipse. 
Any idea on pricing?

And since it takes an off-the-shelf GX panel, does that mean we can buy the sound center separately without a panel included?

Since the Harmony takes an off the-shelf panel, we can buy that sound center individually. Hoping the same here.

Have not find the exact price for the new soundcenter, but apparently raised by 30%

Yes you will be able to just buy the soundcenter, so either you use it for the new Eclipse, or use it as a more capable Beosound Stage.

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vlohjr1 replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 2:19 PM
Emil Jensen:

Have not find the exact price for the new soundcenter, but apparently raised by 30%

Yes you will be able to just buy the soundcenter, so either you use it for the new Eclipse, or use it as a more capable Beosound Stage.

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But the main problem is that the eclipse can only support GX model and not CX? What about if a new panel model is used I have to buy a new sound centre again?Unsure
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vlohjr1:
Emil Jensen:

 

Have not find the exact price for the new soundcenter, but apparently raised by 30%

 

Yes you will be able to just buy the soundcenter, so either you use it for the new Eclipse, or use it as a more capable Beosound Stage.

 

 

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But the main problem is that the eclipse can only support GX model and not CX? What about if a new panel model is used I have to buy a new sound centre again?Unsure

Yes this is a concern, as the GX line only have been for one generation.

Hopefully B&O know that LG at least is also going to use it next year.

Further than that I am not sure if even LG know them self.

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Michael replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 2:28 PM
I believe it shall be seen as a complete set anyways. But I believe stb brackets will be able to find a solution for mk1 owners and further on for mk2. Seemingly the tv is now held by vesa mount.

Anyone who has the install and/or service manual? Please PM me.

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Are you sure about MK1 owners?

It is not the same soundcenter, so not sure if it will function 100%

There is a member that have done it, but he says that it is not 100%

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vlohjr1 replied on Thu, Nov 5 2020 3:02 PM
Michael:

I believe it shall be seen as a complete set anyways. But I believe stb brackets will be able to find a solution for mk1 owners and further on for mk2. Seemingly the tv is now held by vesa mount.

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It’s the cut out from the soundcentre which is the problem and won’t fit a c panel I think....
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