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Millemissen
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Millemissen Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2021 1:30 PM

On the forum there is an ongoing discussion (some times quite hot) about the importance of having and being able to play music as highres files or if the 16/44.1 cd standart is good enough.

In these discussions I usually point at the importance of recording, mixing and mastering as something that has a far bigger influence on what we could choose to define as quality of the music. Something that we should pay much more attention to.

In this video Rick Beato explains (some of) the reasons why music has become dull (and often fatiguing to listen to):

https://youtu.be/AFaRIW-wZlw

This is important to know if we care for quality in your music listening.
Instead of asking for music in socalled highres containers (24/96 etc etc), this where we should focus......we want more craftmanship in the music production and less machinery!

The excellent audiosystems and speakers from B&O deserve more than just industrial made music.

 

What do you think?

 

MM

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Sandyb replied on Tue, Mar 2 2021 1:57 PM

Thanks for sharing, although I'm guessing most people here are aware of the importance of room environment and mastering, from what I can see.

Even on Tidal / Qobuz the proportion of available music in hi-res is very small (5% -ish if I remember), so none of that res chasing bothers me.

As for what B&O speakers deserve or are used for, I guess that's up to each individual, but one thing is for sure - B&O should give / have given their music listening app more love over the years if the speakers were so very worthy (some are, for some its more arguable). Anyway, too late for all that I guess - the browsing experience has been all busy handed off to 3rd party apps.

But overall yes, the speakers are the very last thing I'd replace in my setup (with another brand).

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I really like this website I found online: http://dr.loudness-war.info. It has a large collection of albums that were analyzed in terms of their dynamic range. Really quite interesting how different music stacks up. 

Beosince98
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Also this graph I found on Reddit some years ago:

Millemissen
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Beosince98:

I really like this website I found online: http://dr.loudness-war.info. It has a large collection of albums that were analyzed in terms of their dynamic range. Really quite interesting how different music stacks up. 

That is a great problem also.

The mastering engineers - or rather those from the record companies, who give them the job - don’t seem to have learnt, that the streaming services nowadays use loudness normalizing....in order to avoid the sometimes huge differences in loudness in different tracks/albums.

But that is not, what Rick Beato is talking about.

It is more the automation in the mixing process, which destroys the ‘groove’, that former mixes (before these plugins were used) had, that he is talking about.

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