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Is the Transmitter 1 actually wireless?

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Aussie Michael Posted: Sat, May 18 2019 6:40 AM

I am a bit confused about the Transmitter 1.

I read that it can do 7.1 sound, and it's made for the 18, 19 etc 

So can I connect it the TM1 to a Sony TV via optical, and then connect 2 BL18 (without PL cables) and 2 other speakers with Receiver 1's?

Im guessing if it can talk to Receiver 1's then it should be able to talk to the 18s no problem.

Please help!

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Aussie Michael replied on Sat, May 18 2019 6:51 AM

The opening paragraph of this tells me it is, but it would be good to hear from fellow BW people

 

https://beoprime.com/media/pdf/6c/88/d1/Guide-BeoLab-Transmitter-1-25870e66de005f.pdf

 

Is it hard to set up? 

Does it work well? 

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Aussie Michael replied on Sat, May 18 2019 7:12 AM

Or, is it that it's wireless but it doesn't do the decoding, so you would still need an AV receiver and the BLTransmitter?  Is that it?

Thanks in advance 

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PaulGiles replied on Sat, May 18 2019 7:31 AM
The tx1 is basically the wireless link between the rx1’s.

quite an intelligent piece of kit as it simulates R&L on the PL sockets as if hard wired.

Not sure on the Sony as only connected to BV’s but if you follow the guide and switch to non B&O it should work with the correct leads?
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Millemissen replied on Sat, May 18 2019 8:48 AM

Using the optical in will only provide you 2.0/2.1 channels (aka stereo).

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, May 18 2019 9:00 AM
As long as you can control the volume of your Sony TV optical output, either through the TV itself or through an IR receiver connected to the TR1 and compatible with your Sony remote, then you can connect the TV to the TR1 optical input and send the sound wirelessly to Wisa speakers.

I have chosen another solution:

Samsung TV optical out to BS Core optical in

BS Core to TR 1 via PL

TR1 to BL 18, 19 and 8000+Receiver1

Volume control through Essence remote paired with the Core

I use the Core for other services and multiroom, e.g I can continue listening to TV sound in another room.

For 7.1 you would need an AV device connected to the TR1

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

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Aussie Michael replied on Sat, May 18 2019 1:03 PM

thanks guys - good pick up MM

mbolo can your setup do 5.1?

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Aussie Michael replied on Sun, May 19 2019 3:20 AM

I hope this comes through ok. Just playing with ,y understanding of your setup and how it could recreate to what I’m trying to achieve.

Have I understood correctly Whistle

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Millemissen replied on Sun, May 19 2019 8:24 AM

You would have to set the output (over optical) to stereo/2 channel - otherweise you won’t have any sound at all.

Maybe reading the guide of the Transmitter could shed some light on your options with the Sony tv:


https://beoprime.com/media/pdf/6c/88/d1/Guide-BeoLab-Transmitter-1-25870e66de005f.pdf

One possible scenario could be to connect the Core to the Transmitter/PL and the tv to the Transmitter/optical.

And maybe the additional ir-receiver would work with your Sony in order to control the sound.

Just some thoughts - since I am not able to test these things.

Yes, in order to have 5.1 (more than 2 channel) sound you would need a receiver with preouts of these channels.....or a BV 😉

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PaulGiles replied on Sun, May 19 2019 6:52 PM
Yep.

Once you have a BV it just all seems the best solution, neat and very straightforward.

Ok they are “more” money but once you take into consideration the set up costs and work around of third party equipment, extra amps and processing etc.

not to mention the BR1 that you have the pleasure to use, the BV is the best choice.
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Aussie Michael replied on Mon, May 20 2019 7:38 AM

Thanks MM, i did read that and to me it wasn't very clear if you can have all of the PL occupied and it still outputs to WISA.  

And yes, one scenario could be TV to the Transmitter/optical, but that would only stereo and agree that if i went down the path of the Transmitter, then i would need an AV receiver if i want to do WISA to BL's. 

Thanks Paul, I already have 2 BV.  This is for a different television.  And being that there will be less BV going forward, and even B&O using third party screens (LG) then this is a likely scenario for a lot of other people.

 

 

So in conclusion.  The Transmitter 1 is actually wireless. 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, May 20 2019 10:30 AM
Aussie Michael:

So in conclusion.  The Transmitter 1 is actually wireless.

Ohhh yes!

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Millemissen replied on Mon, May 20 2019 3:35 PM

I’d say, yes and no!

If the question was about the connection/s to the (WiSA compatible) BL’s, then definitely yes.

Everything else is not wireless.

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Aussie Michael replied on Wed, May 22 2019 9:51 AM

Mbolo is your setup that you described stereo or 5.1 ?  Im guessing stereo, but just wanted to clarify, thanks in advance. 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, May 23 2019 9:06 PM
Aussie Michael:

Mbolo is your setup that you described stereo or 5.1 ?  Im guessing stereo, but just wanted to clarify, thanks in advance.

My setup is stereo.

Main reason is that my TR1 is configured as a « WISA switch » (page 15 of the manual if I remember well) which impies stereo only.

I have not investigated if (1) my Samsung TV was able to process x.1, (2) if it was the case that the x.1 signal would be carried over the optical out and (3) that the Core would be able to decode and propagate it properly to appropriate speakers through the TR1 .... looks like too complex anyway to be possible

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, May 23 2019 9:09 PM
Aussie Michael:

Mbolo is your setup that you described stereo or 5.1 ? Im guessing stereo, but just wanted to clarify, thanks in advance.

Not sure what but I have sent other responses to this thread that are not going through ....

To summarize: my setup is stereo only (see page 15 of the doc published by MM)

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, May 23 2019 9:23 PM

Aussie Michael:

Mbolo is your setup that you described stereo or 5.1 ?  Im guessing stereo, but just wanted to clarify, thanks in advance. 

<I have tried to answer several times through the app, unsuccessfully, sorry if it comes later>

My setup is stereo only as my TR1 is configured as a WISA Switch (see page 15 of the doc if I remember well)

That said I doubt that (1) my Samsung TV would process and propagate x.1 sound through the optical out, (2) that the Core would process and propagate a x.1 signal received on its optical in to appropriate wireless speakers paired with the TR1 ... but someone may have an answer to this.

And to conclude, I'm very satisfied with my 2.1 setup with 4 speakers in stereo (two fronts, two rears) and a sub.
x.1 sources are rare or not existing in my environment.

 

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

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Aussie Michael replied on Sat, May 25 2019 12:16 AM

Thank you for your response :-)

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pig30n replied on Wed, May 19 2021 9:04 PM

Hi mbolo01,

 

Can TR1 work as a WISA Switch but with the signal coming from its Optical input ? 

I'm thinking of doing a similar setup with a stereo 4.1.

The thing is, there's a double Digital->Analog conversion happening because the Core is connected to TR1 with PowerLink:

- 1st conversion happens in the Core when it sending via PowerLink

- 2nd conversion happens at the speakers

If the Core was to connect to TR1 with Optical, the signal will stay digital until reaching the speakers.

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, May 19 2021 10:49 PM
pig30n:

Can TR1 work as a WISA Switch but with the signal coming from its Optical input ?

Logically the switch feature only applies to PL ports as it’s just a question of priority between multiple sources connected in PL ports, e.g. my Core is in PL1 and my Moment in PL2, so Moment is audible only if Core is in standby. Optical and RCA don’t have priority over PL as you know, so with or without having the TR1 configured as a Wisa switch, the Optical input would work if no PL is active.

BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

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