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Beogram 4002 non responsive

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RobM
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RobM Posted: Tue, Jan 4 2022 12:02 AM

I was adjusting the platter height with help from Beolover.com wnd when I finished it would not power up - dead.

i did have trouble taking off the small plate on the right side so I left it. I tried wiggling it and even slid my finger under to help wiggle but quickly gave up.

platter adjustment was successful and looks great but honestly would prefer a functioning deck....

what have I done? Does anyone have any advice?

thanks in advance for your attention! 

Spassmaker
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Hi Rob

Maybe while you were wiggling there is a short in the Beogram.

First pull the 220 Volt  AC or 110  Volt AC mains out the wall for your safty

Take off the aluminium plate which surrounds the platter 

Next is to check the two fuses near the transformator.

Let us know what you found out.

Regards

Christian

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RobM replied on Fri, Jan 28 2022 4:37 PM

Indeed the two fuses were blown. I will be installing the new fuses this weekend. Does anyone know what two fuses? is it possible that one has been blown out for a while? or do they blow together? what does each fuse control?

RobM
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RobM replied on Fri, Jan 28 2022 4:37 PM

Indeed the two fuses were blown. I will be installing the new fuses this weekend. Does anyone know what two fuses? is it possible that one has been blown out for a while? or do they blow together? what does each fuse control?

RobM
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RobM replied on Fri, Jan 28 2022 4:37 PM

Indeed the two fuses were blown. I will be installing the new fuses this weekend. Does anyone know what two fuses? is it possible that one has been blown out for a while? or do they blow together? what does each fuse control?

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sonavor replied on Fri, Jan 28 2022 5:55 PM

Hi,

It is very difficult to troubleshoot something like this.
It sounds like you opened the Beogram up for some mechanical adjustment (hopefully with the Beogram unplugged).
After your adjustments the Beogram blew a fuse.
Did your adjustment of the platter required you to lower the platter in order to make it flush with the deck surface?

If so then it might now be contacting something that it didn't before (like some wire or component lead).
Perhaps your Beogram had an issue where a wire connection was on the brink of failing and you accidentally helped it along.

I recommend unplugging the Beogram and removing the deck panels and platter.
Also put the platter back on with the deck panels off and manually rotate the platter while looking underneath to see if it is hitting anything.
You can also listen for any sound of the platter hitting something.  Look for anything that the platter is coming really close to as it turns.
Then take some good photos of the inside, maybe from different angles and post them here on this Beoword Forum thread.
I have had a few occurrences in the past where other sets of eyes on the problem spot something I missed.

The best way to post several pictures on this forum is to first go to your profile.
On the far right and down a bit on the page is a section called "My Files".
It is a little bit of a learning curve on how that mechanism works but it is pretty easy to master.
You click on the View all files link.
Then on the page the comes up you create a folder name and press Add New Folder.
The folder will appear on the right side under Browse Files.
After that you click on the name of your folder and add images to it.

To add images there is a two-step process.
First you click Choose File.  That lets you browse your computer for the image you want to upload.
I recommend taking the time to name each file something meaningful rather than something vague (like IMG01, IMG02, etc.).

It will only let you upload one image at a time unfortunately and you upload the image by pressing Add File (after you have done the browse for file step).

You want the images small enough to upload but not too small where you can't see any detail.
I like to use 2200 x 1800 pixels or 1800 x 1200 pixels.

I know it sounds like a lot of hassle but once you have the images uploaded under your own folder you can use the little filmstrip icon on these forum post pages to select and add several pictures to the post...albeit just one at a time.

The interface is kind of clunky but the result is good.

...and it will let everyone here see what you are seeing.

-sonavor

 

RobM
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RobM replied on Sat, Jan 29 2022 1:29 AM

I believe you hit the nail on the head. I opened it up but neglected to unplug first. I replace the fuses, plugged it in and the deck is still unresponsive, 

I bought these 250 mA-T 250 V replicating what I saw on the fuses I removed. The fuses I installed are fast blow and they are are fine.   

 

working on images now

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sonavor replied on Sat, Jan 29 2022 2:01 AM

Can you also clarify what you did regarding adjusting the platter height?
Did you just mean that you adjusted the tension on the three leaf springs for the floating chassis?

The adjustment of the platter height via the center hub is only for the turntable function of having the correct distance between the tonearm and the platter surface.  That is so the phono stylus will contact the record groove at the optimal position. Of course there is some leeway that has to be be allowed as not all records are the same thickness.  But the value in the service manual of 23 mm is the value I stick with.

For the cosmetic setting of the platter height you are just adjusting the position of the floating chassis to the frame of the Beogram.  That is via the leaf spring adjustment screws.

-sonavor

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