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Beogram 4002 Remove Control Panel with Speed Controls

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Andrew Posted: Thu, Feb 7 2013 4:45 AM

Hi everyone,

I have been searching but have been unable to find an answer to my question. I have recently taken delivery of a Beogram 4002 to match my restored Beomaster 1900 and S55 speakers. The 33rpm speed control dial lamp is not working, the 45rpm lamp is fine.

I have disassembled the table to the point where I have the wooden frame pulled formward and both the top cover under the arm and the one around the platter removed.

I tried to gently pull the panel with the speed control switches up but it seemed firmly locked in place. This is the panel I must remove in order to access the lamp holders. All posts I have found tell me to just 'remove' the panel.

Can anyone give me slightly more specific details about how to remove this panel? Also can anyone advise the specifics of the replacement lamp (I will do both whilst it is open).

Secondly, the ON << switch does not activate until the button is pressed a little lower than the other buttons, all others function fine, what is the process to resolve this?


Many thanks for any help!

Andrew

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Andrew:
I tried to gently pull the panel with the speed control switches up but it seemed firmly locked in place. This is the panel I must remove in order to access the lamp holders. All posts I have found tell me to just 'remove' the panel.

You need to remove the part with the speed dials first, under that you will find a screw that holds the keyboard in place.

http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/27003/209805.aspx#209805

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Andrew replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 9:54 AM

My question is, how do I remove the speed dials? 

Sorry maybe I was not specific enough :-) 

 

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tournedos replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 10:03 AM

Laughing Sorry for the misunderstanding.

But, I really can't offer any more specific advice than just pull up. Be careful though, there's always the odd chance that some butcher has glued it on or something.

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Dillen replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 10:11 AM

It's held by two spring clips. It comes off as a complete assembly with the dials and aluminum frame apprx 3x13cm.
Pry it off upwards using your fingertips, lift one side at a time, it can bind a bit but it will come off.

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Andrew replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 12:03 PM

There are some dark plastic panels on each side, do they come off with the fascia? Do I pry from the sides or the back? Sorry not usually this cautious however this table is in very good condition and old so don't want to break anything! 

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tournedos replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 12:04 PM

Did you look at the picture I linked to?

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Dillen replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 12:24 PM

Pry from the sides. Lift only the aluminum panel by its edges. The plastic sides contains the locking clips etc. and stays in the Beogram.
Look here (the photo from Mikas link):
http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.20.98.05/cpanel.jpg

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Andrew replied on Thu, Feb 7 2013 10:18 PM

Thanks for the help both of you, I wanted to know where i had to lift from (the sides) as sometimes lifting along the back of a panel like that can pull the clips off in the wrong way causing them to break.

Re the control panel Play << switch being more difficult to push than the others, do I have to phsycially remove the glue from the button pad to get to the buttons?


A second question, my Beomaster 1900 is running S55's at 8ohm so it always needs a bit more volume to get the same volume of sound as I got out of the previous S35's it had. I used to run a Technics SL1200 before I got he Beogram 4002. I have noticed two things, 1. I need the volume even a little bit louder with the Beogram 4002 to get the same volume and secondly, when it is a little louder I am getting a hum from the turntable. Are there any common places to look for a source of hum? If I unplug the TT from the Beomaster the hum goes away. Its running the original DIN cable from TT to Amp....

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Andrew replied on Fri, Feb 8 2013 1:20 AM

To give you a rough idea of the condition (sorry camera phone pics), this is before all panels were cleaned down and wood polished (the dust cover is away being professionally polished). All lettering is in tact, no marks or scratches on any of the panels or wood trim.

The stylus and cantilever were replaced by a Melbourne company called Garrott, its a microtracer I believe, sounds great.

 

 

 

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tournedos replied on Fri, Feb 8 2013 10:55 AM

Andrew:
1. I need the volume even a little bit louder with the Beogram 4002 to get the same volume and secondly, when it is a little louder I am getting a hum from the turntable.

The B&O cartridges have a bit lower output than MM cartridges from other manufacturers typically have, so it is normal for the Beogram to need more volume than the Technics did to sound the same. I suppose the hum comes from a marginal ground connetion somewhere, check inside the DIN plug and the cable termination inside the Beogram.

That's a nice looking Beogram - the keypad usually has wear marks if the deck has been used a lot. Also nice to hear that there are more options for MMC repair.

I'll let somebody else comment on the switches, I've never had to repair those on my decks. I don't think it's abnormal that they need a bit of a push, though.

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