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Share speakers between BV11 and Beosound 9000

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rxcohen
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rxcohen Posted: Tue, Aug 6 2013 6:15 AM

I have a BV11, BS9000 and a pair of Beolab 1s, and am unsure how to best configure the equipment so that I can share the Bl1s between the BV11 and the BS9000. Everything is in the same room, so I was wondering if I can use one powerlink socket on each speaker to connect to the BS9000, and the second powerlink socket on each speaker to the BV11 with a powerlink/RJ45 adapter cable. Would this work and what would I set the TV and BS9000 options to?

the second config is to connect the BS9000 and the two speakers to the BV11 using the powerlink/RJ45. But I understood from the guide that in order to turn on the BS9000 using Beo4 I would need to go into list, AV and then press CD. I want just use the CD hard button on the BEo4 rather then taking all these steps. Or am I misreading this?

Would appreciate some guidance. Thanks in advance.

BV11-55, BS9000, BL1, BL19, Transmitter 1, Beo4, Beocom 6000, BeoTalk1 200, Sennheiser HD600, McIntosh MHA100

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The right thing to do is to use the NL/ML Converter!

This is created exactly for a setup like yours.

However - if the cost seems too high for you - you could use a PowerLink Switch from Bosscom, Almando or Oneremote.

Do not connect both systems with PowerLink cables at the same time!!

The workaround with connecting the PL-out to the analog-in of the BV11 is too complicated for daily use.

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Hubbe replied on Tue, Aug 6 2013 9:09 AM

I bought an Bosscom powerlink switch so that I could share speakers between my Beosystem 7000 and V1. There are no real reason to buy the more expensive NL/ML Converter if you have no plan to extend the system further.

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Hubbe replied on Tue, Aug 6 2013 9:10 AM

I bought an Bosscom powerlink switch so that I could share speakers between my Beosystem 7000 and V1. There are no real reason to buy the more expensive NL/ML Converter if you have no plan to extend the system further.

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With a V1 plus BS7000 and nothing else, I would probably go for the switch as well.

But if you spend that lot of money on a Bang & Olufsen tv as rxcohen has done, if should not depend on the last bucks when it comes to creating a futureproof setup.

Have a look at my last post in this thread - if you please:

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/4392/43802.aspx#43802

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Hubbe replied on Tue, Aug 6 2013 10:28 AM

At the time I had no choice but to go for the Bosscom switch. If I had the choice then I would probably buy the NL/ML converter. With that said I am happy with the Bosscom switch and can recommend it to anyone that has no plans of extending their system.

B&O stated that the V1 was going to be a stand alone tv. In my mind I knew that B&O was going to change their mind. I was not the only customer that felt that it was a bad decision from B&Os part. Many that bought or thought of buying the V1 had older equipment that they wanted to use. I wonder how many B&O customers that bought something else. It was a missed opportunity for B&O.

 

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My thoughts on that subject are:

1: they did not expect that the V1 would be that well accepted by Bang & Olufsen costumers.

2: the plans for a second Bang & Olufsen NL-tv were delayed - therefore it made sense to make the V1 NL-enabled. (and it was very easy because of the 'engine' in it).

I am glad they reacted this way - the way is now open for lots of 'new old' costumers and for those who want a second BV in a linkroom.

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DoubleU replied on Tue, Aug 6 2013 7:14 PM

rxcohen:

I have a BV11, BS9000 and a pair of Beolab 1s, and am unsure how to best configure the equipment so that I can share the Bl1s between the BV11 and the BS9000. Everything is in the same room, so I was wondering if I can use one powerlink socket on each speaker to connect to the BS9000, and the second powerlink socket on each speaker to the BV11 with a powerlink/RJ45 adapter cable. Would this work and what would I set the TV and BS9000 options to?

the second config is to connect the BS9000 and the two speakers to the BV11 using the powerlink/RJ45. But I understood from the guide that in order to turn on the BS9000 using Beo4 I would need to go into list, AV and then press CD. I want just use the CD hard button on the BEo4 rather then taking all these steps. Or am I misreading this?

Would appreciate some guidance. Thanks in advance.

Yes, the NL/ML convertor will work, but it’s expensive, it needs wiring and if you’re unlucky it needs a second router as well.

Think outside the box: Just drop a line from your BS9000 (DIN-out) to the AV-source of you BV11. You will need a tweaked cable to have this, and connect your BL1s to the TV as well. In the setup name your AV-source “CD”. Since the BS9000 as is your BV11 are in the same room, they will both react on the CD-command. BV11 will switch on with a black screen (no backlights) and the BS9000 will act as you are used to. BV11 needs to be in option 2.

Another solution if you’re not using the FM-radio unit in your BS9000 anymore. (I don’t know if you use DVB-radio in your BV11 now...) Connect the BS9000 and BV11 with a spdif-cable, and set it up from there. Be aware that spdif-out of your BS9000 is only active with CD.

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Hi DoubleU,

what do you mean by "drop a line from your BS9000 (DIN-out)"?

The 'AUX'?

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DoubleU replied on Tue, Aug 6 2013 10:59 PM

Yes, the AUX it is. The line-out signals L/R are fixed, so volume is controlled by the BV11.

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Would work.

But how would you choose 'Radio' from the 9000 then, if the BV11 is set up to react to the command 'CD'.

And it blocks the 'AUX IN' which could be used for a Playmaker or a turntable.

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rxcohen replied on Wed, Aug 7 2013 1:06 PM

I like outside the box as to me the NL/ML seemed crazily expensive (about $1000 here in the US). I just connected the BL1 to the BV11 and will see what to do. I watched the last Batman movie and Inception, and the sound was quite improved in terms of speech clarity. Thanks for all the input....

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DoubleU replied on Wed, Aug 7 2013 6:01 PM

Millemissen:

Would work.

But how would you choose 'Radio' from the 9000 then, if the BV11 is set up to react to the command 'CD'.

And it blocks the 'AUX IN' which could be used for a Playmaker or a turntable.

MM

Not really topic related, but this is also not an issue if you don't mind sending an extra command to save $1000,-

First press CD so the BV11 will switch on and open the AV-source. Then press A.AUX or RADIO to send a command to the BS9000 only. Just make sure RADIO and A.AUX are not in the source list so the TV will not respond to it.

The NL/ML is only worth the price in a setup with NL-linkrooms. 

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rxcohen replied on Wed, Aug 7 2013 6:54 PM

DoubleU...so f understand correctly I would run a cable from the phono in the BS9000 to the AV IN of the BV11. And then issue the commands as you stated. Is this correct? 

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DoubleU replied on Wed, Aug 7 2013 7:10 PM

No, the phono or RCA is digital out (spdif) and AV IN is analog, so that won't work. The DIN socket in the BS9000 has a fixed line out and is analog.

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rxcohen replied on Wed, Aug 7 2013 10:26 PM

Ultimately if I decide to expand into multi-room the directions seems to be the NM/ML converter, but for now there seems to be a couple of simpler and cheaper cable solutions. I will try the SPDIF connection as that seems the simplest and I have never used the radio on the BS9000, and my turntable is long gone. I am now streaming music from my IPAD through AppleTV instead of using the Airport Express connected on the BS9000, so the AUX output will be unused too.

I am assuming there would be no real differences in performance between using SPDIF-SPDIF vs AUX-AV IN connections. The BS9000 and BV11 are presently 3 metres apart

 

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