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Hi.
Once again I have bought vintage B&O, cause HI-FI is not HI-FI without a CD player right?
So I bought a Beogram CD X with a broken lid, but worst of all is that there is no sound in the right channel. Therefore I bought another one along with a CD 50 at an online auction. This CD X has a working lid, but i sounds like the laser is busted, and some of the touch buttons are not working, and as with the other no sound in right channel. I tried opening the first one up to see if I could fix the no sound problem myself, but my limited knowledge of that was to no help there.
The CD 50 tray wont open, and I have to force it open and again shut, then it cant read the CDs and i have placed it reading side up!
The service shops, that advertised repairing B&O, has said they couldn't help me on the CD X (haven't tried contacting them about the CD 50) as it was too old.
My question is now, does anyone know someone in Denmark on Zeeland, who might be able to repair these, or should I cut my loses and get rid of them?
Try Dillen (Martin) on this forum, he is in Copenhagen.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
It sounds like a broken hinge left or right + some bad soldering spots for the cdx. The lazer is most likely still good but out of specs to function right.
Medogsfat aka Chris can fixe the hinge and Dillen the rest including the CD50. Both players are worth getting back in order. You got them because of their current state. They are highly enjoyed when they work.
Your CDX has almost the same problems as mine had back in 2008. Dillen and Chris got it back together and it still plays great.
I have a spare Beogram CD3300 hinge if you like!
I think they are the same. Can anyone confirm this?
As far as the touch pad is concerned, you will have to open it and look at the solder joints, as well as the way the thing was re-assembled.
No sound on one channel : the output reed relay, a classic issue. An easy fix. Also, you'll have to do the griplets.
The CD50 : yes a new belt is the order of the day, and the turntable motor will have to be taken apart, cleaned and fresh sintered bearing special oil will have to be re-applied.
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Jacques
Fantastic to get so many positive responses! Thank you for that.
I was thinking that the one CD X could be used as spare parts for the other, as it has more problems that the other (I was gonna show that one of the lights didn't work, think it was 6, but now the CD doesn't even spin). Furthermore it has some chips knocked of it, which to me shows it has had a rough life at previous owners.
Below is a picture of the broken hinge of the one CD X I think would be beneficial to repair.
I will try to contact Dillen, to see if he thinks he can repair my CD players.
Thanks for the help so far guys!
Most often, 'previous owners' might just be the local scrapyard...
Quite a few people are happy to sell items just coming from the tip mind you.
HI again.
Thanks to Dillen(Martin), I now have two working Beograms, a CD X and a CD 50.
I have tested them, and they sound wonderful, although the CD 50 is a little selective on the CDs; sometimes it takes them without problems, and sometimes it rejects them a couple of times.
Thanks for all the answers and especially thanks to Dillen for repairing my CD players
Søren
Did Martin do the motor on the CD50?
chartz: Did Martin do the motor on the CD50?
Speak with Martin, Mine plays all types of CDs without any problems, and all I repaired was the motor, I changed belts,cleaned and lubricated.
Does it some times skip the first 10-20 seconds of the first song on a CD when cold. When after playing several CDs does it stop at times in the middle of the CD
Søren Mexico: Does it some times skip the first 10-20 seconds of the first song on a CD when cold. When after playing several CDs does it stop at times in the middle of the CD
Exactly. Do ask Martin.
The Beogram CD50 came out apprx 10 years before the CDR media became commercially available.Most CD50s will happily play CDRs, helped in no minor way by its fairly extensive focus capabilities.However, I would never expect it to just play anything thrown at it and any media not in redbook formatsuch as CopyControl discs etc. could be a problem (- as is the case with almost any CD player).
Basically, the Beogram CD50 was produced in no less than 15 block versions, numbered from 1 to F.Each block version differs slightly from the others, far from all of them share parts and circuit boards and some of them have quite peculiar issues;
- Some players will mute the first second or so from the first CD inserted after leaving standby.Start the CD over or load another or the same CD again and everything will be fine - until next time out of standby.
- Some players will eject a CD if the previous CD was more than apprx. 62-65 minutes long andwas allowed to play all the way through to the end. This is a timing fault, where the electronicsare not "patient" enough to wait for the laser block to travel all the way back to read the index trackafter pressing play. Insert the same disc again and everything will be fine since the laser blocks initialposition is now much closer to the index.
Plus a few more.
These issues can be annoying and often result in a trip to the repairers.Some issues can be fixed in some versions - but not all in all versions.Actually, in some versions, introducing the fix for some of the issues can cause others.The service manual addenda, tech sheets etc. documents some of it - but far from all.
The commonly available service manual covers only one version.Sadly, it seems, not 100% consistent with any of the produced units...It's a wonderful product.
Martin
Dillen:It's a wonderful product.
What a great post! Makes me regret I sold mine!
(it did sound good when it worked - it had most of the issues you mention.)
--mika
tournedos: Dillen:It's a wonderful product. What a great post! Makes me regret I sold mine! (it did sound good when it worked - it had most of the issues you mention.)
I must have been very lucky with mine, 50.00 USD, belts, clean, lub., motor, and has worked as a charm ever since.
I will check the funny failure, after playing "long" CDs, as for the sound, beats all my old Philips and Sony´s, of these the oldest Philips is still the best, the rest are in the "lets keep it a little longer bin".
Thank you for the answer Martin, I learn something new every day on this forum.
Ditto, I got mine for 30 euros, mechanics stuck.
After a motor fix, it reads everything and sounds gorgeous.
I too love my early Philips CD100!
My CDX was a reject until I saw the Chris could offer a valuable solution to the broken hinge problem. That was back in 2007 and it still plays great. The only fault is one of the digits shows wrong.
Friedmett: My CDX was a reject until I saw the Chris could offer a valuable solution to the broken hinge problem. That was back in 2007 and it still plays great. The only fault is one of the digits shows wrong.
New displays are available !
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/philips/sales/display_modules.html