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Beocenter 2000 - Pick Up Skates Backwards

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Nigel
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Nigel Posted: Fri, Mar 16 2012 7:48 PM

Hi All, be gentle with me I'm a total newbie - B&O and Forum wise!

I have just purchased a Beocenter 2000. Hadn't been used in circa 15 years when I bought it and had been stored in a cellar.  When I activate the pick up arm it picks up, moves over to the turntable and lowers on to the disc but then skates backwards off the disc and across to the start point. If I manually move the arm in to position it tries to play for a few rotations but then does the same, skips off the disc and drags itself over to the return position! Any ideas, tips or assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks In Anticipation

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Steffen replied on Sat, Mar 17 2012 12:31 AM

And You have tried to adjust the counterweight on the back af the arm..?

Is the platter still turning after the arm returns? -or does it stop..?

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Open it, clean it , lubricate it, adjust the counter weight to 1,2-1,5 grams depending on cantilever type, and if it does not work report back here with pics and failure reportYes - thumbs up

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Nigel replied on Sat, Mar 17 2012 8:55 PM

SOLVED. Thank you for your replies, very much appreciated. Just had to adjust the counter balance and everything is working perfectly. Thanks again.

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Nigel replied on Sat, Mar 17 2012 8:55 PM

SOLVED. Thank you for your replies, very much appreciated. Just had to adjust the counter balance and everything is working perfectly. Thanks again.

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dog377 replied on Sun, Apr 8 2012 8:44 AM

Hi, I have a Beocenter 2800 which has the same problem with the arm - can you give a bit more detail about lubricating and cleaning please.  When you say "open it" what do you mean?

Also what do you reccomend for sticky buttons?

I'm new to this so bear with many and many thanks for any help.

 

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Nigel replied on Sun, Apr 8 2012 3:23 PM

Hi, I was a complete novice when I posted the original question so I understand your comment. I was fortunate to find all

I had to do was adjust the counter balance weight and it cleared the 'problem' I suggest you try this before going in to anything more complex.

Good Luck. 

 

 

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dog377:

Hi, I have a Beocenter 2800 which has the same problem with the arm - can you give a bit more detail about lubricating and cleaning please.  When you say "open it" what do you mean?

Also what do you reccomend for sticky buttons?

I'm new to this so bear with many and many thanks for any help.

Welcome to the forum

Open it: Not sure about BC2800, but take of your cantilever (pick up) and store in secure place, take of the disc platter, take of the bottom plate, and then you should see the TT mechanism.

Clean all mechanics for old grease and tacky oil rests, use Iso alcohol or mineral spirit, cotton swabs and pipe cleaners, apply oil and/or grease to moving mechanical parts at contact points, I use silicon grease and sewing machine oil. DO NOT USE 3 in one or WD40 or similar.

Be extra careful to get the shaft for pickup arm and the bushing for same very clean and well oiled.

Sticky buttons: clean them

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dog377 replied on Fri, Apr 20 2012 6:59 PM

Thank you for this comprehensive advice.  I will have a go at this tomorrow. 

I received speakers - Beovox S30s this week and the leads so I am very excited about getting things set up.  The radio is working and the sound is great.  I am going to clean all the buttons and then get into the the TT mechanism.

Report back tomorrow night.

Thanks

 

 

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dog377 replied on Fri, Apr 20 2012 7:00 PM

Thans for the tip

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tournedos replied on Fri, Apr 20 2012 7:29 PM

Søren Mexico:
Not sure about BC2800, but take of your cantilever (pick up) and store in secure place, take of the disc platter, take of the bottom plate, and then you should see the TT mechanism.

As I recall the BC2800 turntable can be accessed by removing a couple of screws somewhere under the rear rim, then you can lift the turntable off from the rest of the machine. There are a couple of wiring connectors to disconnect (audio and power). No need to flip the entire Beocenter over.

Be extremely careful with the hair thin pickup wires coming from the tonearm through the pivot. They will be immensely difficult to repair if you rip them off.

Søren Mexico:
Sticky buttons: clean them

Indeed. Standard issue with this Beocenter. I think it was the button caps that get stuck in the frame, not the switches themselves. Unfortunately the two words "clean them" will mean about 200 more powerful words you'll scream out while actually doing the job Big Smile The volume & and frequency dials both have cord drives that get in the way, and I seem to recall you need to desolder the station presets.

Not many people know how good sounding these Beocenters (and the BM1500) are. The design is very much like a downscaled Beomaster 4400.

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Dillen replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 8:04 AM

tournedos:

Not many people know how good sounding these Beocenters (and the BM1500) are. The design is very much like a downscaled Beomaster 4400.

I agree. A very pleasant sound indeed.

Beocenter 2800 is becoming rare so definitely worth keeping and caring for.

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dog377 replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 3:24 PM

Afternoon all

It's died.  Turned on this morning and the green light was on indicating FM was tuned.  There were red lights on next to the green - not sure what they are for.  Anyway plugged in the speakers but nothing - silence.  Fiddled around with them a bit and swapped from 1 to 2 pressed the buttons a few times but nothing.  Then the lights went out and intermittently the red ones would come on. But then they stopped coming on as well.  the turntable will not go round.  Changed the fuse in the plug - still no good.

there is a small white plug in the rear of the unit with two pins and a white plastic middle pin.  It fits into a slot between the FM aerial and a two pin slot.  Anyone know what this is for - is it to do with the main power supply?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

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Dillen replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 3:34 PM

Sounds like you found an antenna plug, possibly without any lead connected.

Martin

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dog377 replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 5:56 PM

Yeah that's what I thought so nothing to do with the power. 

Thanks for confirming

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Dillen replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 7:36 PM

The two red LEDs are the discriminator lights. They will help you fine tune a station spot on, that will
be where they light up equally.
The green LED is the stereo indicator, lighting up when a station transmitting an MPX encoded signal is received.
Don't judge the unit from those lights. Connect speakers and listen to it.

Martin

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dog377 replied on Sat, Apr 21 2012 7:57 PM

Hi

Thanks - I had the speakers connected on Thursday morning and played the radio and it sounded great.  Today I carried the unit to another room and reconnected the speakers, turned it on and the lights were on but the speakers were absolutely dead, not a hiss or any indication that they were receiving a signal.  Then the lights stopped coming on and the power was gone.  I think I'll have to take it to an expert.  I'm gutted as it was working on Thursday and I even got a sound from a record although the arm needed a bit of work - that's what I was going to do today.  I guess this is learning about old electronics.  If I can't get this one going I'm going to buy another.

Thanks

Doug  

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