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Screen saving when audio listening after BeoPlay v1 update

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Griebel Posted: Wed, Jun 4 2014 6:44 PM

After the recent BeoPlay v1 software update, I noticed that when listening to music via HomeMedia, screen saving automatically turns on after 1 min and of course the album cover art+info display disappears. With the prior software version, the screen went dimmer, but one could still see the infos/covert art.

Couldn't find the option to change this parameter, but can it be changed? Really too bad because it was always nice to see the cover art and infos on the screen during listening.

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As I already mentioned in another thread (the software update thread) - this 'new function' can not be changed/turned off.

I even wrote BeoCare - that is the answer I got from there.

Personally I find it rather annoying, and would like to see it changed in order to either be able to turn it off totally or to disable it temporarily.

In the mentioned other thread I did not get any responding to the question 'how others think about that'.

At least you too aren't pleased with it Unsure

I guess the only way to get it changed is to tell it to our dealers, and ask them to report it back to Struer.

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I have to laugh...

For months there was endless complaints on the forum about the fact that the BV11/V1 does not 'mute' the screen when an audio source is selected. The software update does exactly that and the response is complaining that the screen mutes.
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Griebel replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 8:32 PM
The issue here is not the screen that mutes after 1 min, but the fact that this function cannot be changed. I liked seeing the track info and cover art displaying on the screen.

What were they thinking when they made that software change?! Don't see any improvement here.

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Raeuber replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 8:35 PM
I think customers should decide whether the screen switches on if (only) listening music or not.

Also after the update it's still not possible to start an audio source without switching the screen on first.

Very annoying, because it's so easy with Beosystem 3 based TVs: With P.MUTE you can switch the screen ON and OFF. And if you want to start an audio source without switching screen on you use AV command.

So come on B&O: JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE!

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That is a funtion that should be user-decided per source - how hard can that be to enable?

I - too - miss the 'AV' function - but it will never come back the old way.

Again why not let the user decide?

In the 'List' of the (newer) Beo4 there are several entries with an 'A-' before the name of the source.

I often wondered what for?

'A-N.RA'' would mean that you could turn on the tv to NetRadio without the screen turning on.

But maybe I've got that wrong, and it is just wishfull thinking?

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Raeuber replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 9:36 PM
Hi MM,

the entries under LIST with the 'A-' before means AV together with the source. These commands are needed for those sources without a hardkey on Beo4. For hardkey sources you have to select AV under LIST and then press the source (e.g. VMEM assigned for my Apple TV).

BTW: Same logic with the 'L-' entries, which means LINK.

But I think you already know this.

This 'easy game' seems to be over with BSys4-based TVs. I really don't know the reason for this because it's a very easy solution.

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@Räuber

Sure I know that!

But I am talking about a remote (the Beo4) that was/is delivered with a V1 - which is based on the BSys4 engine.

Where is the logic, if they (the commands) can't be used on a BSys4 based tv?

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But maybe just a few of us find the 'auto mute picture' function annoying?

So we will probably have to live with it.

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thorne replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 11:28 PM

You can, of course, still use P. Mute with the 11

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Raeuber replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 11:40 PM
Millemissen:

@Räuber

Sure I know that!

But I am talking about a remote (the Beo4) that was/is delivered with a V1 - which is based on the BSys4 engine.

Where is the logic, if they (the commands) can't be used on a BSys4 based tv?

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I think there is no difference: If you get a BSys4 or BSys3 based tv, Beo4 is always the same. Commands that doesn't work with BSys4 based tv's don't need to be added to LIST.

Probably these commands will be added later to BSys4 based tv's by a software update.

BTW: I hope the AV command is also available on BeoRemote One (in Beo4 mode). Otherwise the new remote would be useless for me.

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KMA replied on Wed, Jun 4 2014 11:49 PM

Raeuber:

Very annoying, because it's so easy with Beosystem 3 based TVs: With P.MUTE you can switch the screen ON and OFF. And if you want to start an audio source without switching screen on you use AV command.

At least with Beo5, and the PolyMote Remote App for iPhone, which is made exclusively for Wi-Fi Beovisions with the new video engine, there is "P.MUTE" available. Clicking it, the curtains close on BV11, but audio remains. Click it again, and the curtains open.

Also, when audio only source on the TV blanks the picture, I tested that with Spotify and H.MEDIA (DLNA) changing a track brings the cover art back. The same happens by pressing the audio source button again (e.g. Spotify) on the remote.

I can't understand why B&O chose to blank the picture for audio sources, when this has been possible with P.MUTE all the time. Has P.MUTE been missing from Avant/BV11/V1/BSys4, or am I missing something here?

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Raeuber replied on Thu, Jun 5 2014 7:35 AM
KMA:

I can't understand why B&O chose to blank the picture for audio sources, when this has been possible with P.MUTE all the time.

If so, I can't understand the automatic blank of the picture at all. At least the screen should stay on after it has switched off automaticly and then pressed P.MUTE once.

Also it should be possible to select an audio source without switching screen on.

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On the BV11 I still have the non-picture muting problem when listening to a 'radio' source (i.e. radio via Freeview channel).

On first switch on or switch over to the radio channel, the radio station information page comes up and stays on. It will only mute if you change to another radio programme and then change back, after which the muting takes place after about another 30 seconds.

Reported via my dealer to Struer when I first got the TV. Obviously not a priority for B&O, or maybe there isn't a solution.

 

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Is it possible to wake the screen any other way than selecting the source again?

Also, I don't understand why there are no curtains when the screen shuts off. It's there with P.MUTE and looks very professional, so I think they should use the same effect for the automatic feature.

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Either they should stick to the 'P.Mute' (which still works * ) or let us decide per source how it should react.

And - ultimately - make it possible to disable the auto-function temporarily.

Of course - as lundmark writes - this could be combined with the curtain-function. But that is more a On/Off-function.

* Is there a 'P.Mute' in the 'List' of the new Remote?

 

This auto function must be rather annoying for the dealers in the shops demoing the audio playback capacities of a V1/BV11/Avant Crying

 

Note: I just started my V1 (the Mediacenter renderer function) from a remote app on the iPad (the 8Player).

The screen stayed on for about 5 minutes (in the middle of the second track of an album it went off)!!!

You can (on the Beo4 w.navi) bring back the screen with a touch of the navi button (alternatively the 'Back' button).. Then the list of servers and last played comes on too (why?). This list disappears after about a minute (or less)  - and then the (now-playing) screen disappear after another 30 seconds.

I wonder where the logic is - or do I just don't see it?

 

Edit to note: just discovered that if you push the 'List' button, you get the screen back again (for the usual approx 30 seconds.

This way - at least - you can see which track is being played momentary.

If you push the blue button (on the remote), you also get the screen back - and the info of the track of course.

This screen stayes so a couple of minutes and then fades out a bit  - but it stayes on.

For how long I do not yet know - probably constantly. But who would want that?

I'd be happy just to see the cover staying on - nothing more needed imo!

 

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KMA replied on Thu, Jun 5 2014 12:19 PM
Millemissen:

This auto function must be rather annoting for the dealers in the shops demoing the audio playback capacities of a V1/BV11/Avant

I also wonder is it good for the panel to switch on and off constantly... Techically speaking, longevity in mind. LEDs have their lifetime, too.

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KMA replied on Thu, Jun 5 2014 12:43 PM
Quote of the day:

"First they bring us these nice visual music services, then they blank out the screen."

I just don't get it, either.

I hear something new on Spotify, and I can't just glance at the screen to see what's playing. I need to grab the remote. Or use Shazam :P

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Griebel replied on Sun, Jun 29 2014 9:17 PM
Some follow-up information. To keep the screen alive when playing music, press select info (blue button). It then shows additional details on the left and on the right the classical infos including covert art. The screen goes dim after 5 min, but stays permanently on.

A bit surprinsing, after track change, the covert part updates, while the additional info part doesn't.

Another unfortunate (I'm tempted to say stupid) consequence of the last update is that the covert art display is now of low resolution... on a HD TV!!
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Hi Griebel,

'blue button' ---- I already posted that tip 3 weeks ago (look above).

'low resolution' ---- I haven't noticed that. Anyone else?

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Griebel replied on Thu, Sep 4 2014 8:31 AM
The recent V1 firmware update corrected the low resolution cover display issue when using Homemedia.

It did however not change the forced entry into screen saving mode and disappearance of display during audio listening.
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...and that is really a pitty - we want to be able to choose how it should behave ourselves.

Mark you that, dear programmers Super Angry

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