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Hi Guys
older guy getting to grips with 21st century and getting his first mobile phone lol
I know the iphones can control the bang and olufsen products using the apps.
my question is can the other phones do the same or is it limited
malcolm welborn
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
thank you for your reply giving me the options available
many thanks Chris
Is this your first smartphone?
How "techy" are you?
You have quite a lot to learn if you aren´t used to smartphones, and in that case I would recommend a iPhone.
But I guess android is more customizable..
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
Certainly, the iPhone is incredibly easy to use, just like all Apple products. You really do not to read an instruction manual. Incredible design and craftsmanship in every way - the phone that B&O should have produced.
Seriously, there is no reason to look at any other brand of phone or operating system. What HiFi reckon that every year, it's the best phone for audio and highly conclude that, it really is the best phone year after year. I'm sure that you'd never regret buying one plus i'm sure that you'll get many, many, many years of performance from it. I still have my 4S and three years on, just as super as it was there years ago. Many friends have the iPhone 6 but I don't need the larger screen at present but it's terrific.
Because I keep all of my music, videos, films and home videos on iTunes, the iPhone is a true pleasure to use as it syncs perfectly with it. All playlists are there for instance which is vital to me as i'll connect to in my car and then at home, i'll stream it to an Apple TV box.
Enjoy and have fun with whatever smart phone you choose.
Try both iPhone and a decent Android alternative (on your own, if you can). Try moving music and photos about etc. and anything else you think you may do on a regular basis. Android devices when connected to your computer will appear as a drive and you can drag and drop files, for iPhones you will have to use iTunes to do the same. Most modern Android devices can cast streams and content to most modern TV's or else the addition of a Chromecast (£30) to a HDMI port can be used, iPhones need (I think) an AppleTV. As already mentioned, only Apple has airplay but not Bluetooth aptx which is supported by most other manufacturers.
Most would say the iPhone was the best looking but there are also some decent looking and well built Android phones now too, including metal cases if that floats your boat (don't be too swayed, iPhones break when you drop them too,....... and crash helmets are made from polycarbonate)!!
I had an iPhone early doors, moved to Android and haven't seen anything that would make me change back.
Decide how big a phone you want (some are just too big), decide whether you want the bleeding edge or will last years model suit your needs and how much you want to pay.
Are you going to buy it on contract, or buy it outright and get a sim only contract or even PAYG? Decide your monthly usage and then head to a site like Uswitch Mobiles to hunt out the best deal.
Simple really!
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BeoNut since '75
Owwww Elephant :) :) :)
Is there an APP for a Sony Ericsson Z2 for Beolink 1000 use?
Otherwise I prefer using that in person.
Still I can't see that it would be more simple and easy to use.
Paul W:Owwww Elephant :) :) :)
I currently use a Lumigon T2 (now replaced by the T2HD described by Chris). It has a built-in B&O App and IR blaster. It works about 70% of the time as a B&O controller for my BV11: the rest of the time you repeatedly press buttons wondering why nothing is happening, then suddenly you will get a multiple response on the TV. The iPad App is much better.
The Lumigon is Andoid based. Every week or two a load of Google rubbish seems to get loaded onto the phone without my knowledge and after much delving you find that something like Google News is keeping your phone awake and running the battery down. Removing these unwanted Apps repeatedly is tiresome.
All of my relatives use iPhones and they seem to be outstandingly reliable. Android phones are also said to be always slightly out of date because manufacturers have to customise each latest Andoid operating system to their own requirements.
My next phone, which may be some time away, may well be an iPhone. I also use Apple computers in preference to Windows based PC's. Smooth in operation and little need for anti virus software. I have a neighbour who has wasted half of his life battling with Windows operating system problems, and my old office had dozens of support staff dealing with endless Windows issues (on a cheap Dell system network).
Graham
Malcolm wrote in his initial post:
"I know the iphones can control the bang and olufsen products using the apps."
I am still wondering what he meant?
Android/iOS phone used instead of a regular B&O remote?
Or what some apps on these phones can do in addition to the good old physical remote?
A DLNA app to throw music to a BV11, the Creation 5 app for the BS5 - as an example!
Or does he mean the BeoRemote app on the iPad.....?
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I Have a beovision 11 tv and looking at the bang and olufsen apps all seem to be optimised for I pad and iPhone so wondered if that was the better option for the phone
Thanks Malcolm,
don't buy an iPhone just to have an app to control the tv.
Imo it is a nice to have, but not needed way of controlling your tv - the physical remotes are much better for everyday life.
I do use the BeoRemote on the iPad - but not that often.
MM
Millemissen: Thanks Malcolm, don't buy an iPhone just to have an app to control the tv. Imo it is a nice to have, but not needed way of controlling your tv - the physical remotes are much better for everyday life. I do use the BeoRemote on the iPad - but not that often. MM
Agree - do you really want to wake up your phone and fire up an App everytime you want to adjust your TV? Definitely a novelty rather than a must have!
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
Puncher: Millemissen: Thanks Malcolm, don't buy an iPhone just to have an app to control the tv. Imo it is a nice to have, but not needed way of controlling your tv - the physical remotes are much better for everyday life. I do use the BeoRemote on the iPad - but not that often. MM Agree - do you really want to wake up your phone and fire up an App everytime you want to adjust your TV? Definitely a novelty rather than a must have!
Well, it has its uses. I use, for my non-Beo gear, a Harmony remote that talks to a remote hub over BluTooth or WiFi. When I forget to toss the remote on the charger and it dies mid search for something to watch, it's nice to be able to toss it on the charger, pick up the phone or tablet, whichever is closer, and finish what you were doing and watch some TV or a disc. On the iOS app when in the Harmony screen it locks out the timeout for the screen, it stays lit until you exit it or manually exit.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Mark:I like to see where wearables takes us... we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
elephant: Mark: I like to see where wearables takes us... we tend to forget there is more to design than designing. ... away from nudism
Mark: I like to see where wearables takes us... we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
I like to see where wearables takes us... we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
... away from nudism
I know that this is a mobile phone thread, but in another forum/ blog there are a lot of complaints about a Windows Trojan virus.
This is what the blog owner has posted:
"And the real solution is STOP USING WINDOW$! That is what the "Win32" in the trojan ID stands for: Microsoft Windows 32 bit. Linux, BSD, Android and Mac machines will not be affected by this.If you must use Window$, please at least use Firefox with the NoScript add-on.I am sorry to have to tell you that I don't have the time or, frankly, inclination to find out what is going wrong this time. Using Window$ is a de-facto consent to have your machine hacked, trojaned, virus-infected, backdoored, cracked, taken over, etc. etc. etc. And no amount of "anti-virus" "computer security" "firewalls" or any other external tools will protect you. In fact, most of them just make your machines slower and less stable."
End of quote.
The extra cost of buying anything Android based or AppleMac based over Windows is well worth the price. (And many would argue that Apple might be a step better than Android too except for not being able to escape iTunes etc)!
vikinger: I know that this is a mobile phone thread, but in another forum/ blog there are a lot of complaints about a Windows Trojan virus. This is what the blog owner has posted: "And the real solution is STOP USING WINDOW$! That is what the "Win32" in the trojan ID stands for: Microsoft Windows 32 bit. Linux, BSD, Android and Mac machines will not be affected by this.If you must use Window$, please at least use Firefox with the NoScript add-on.I am sorry to have to tell you that I don't have the time or, frankly, inclination to find out what is going wrong this time. Using Window$ is a de-facto consent to have your machine hacked, trojaned, virus-infected, backdoored, cracked, taken over, etc. etc. etc. And no amount of "anti-virus" "computer security" "firewalls" or any other external tools will protect you. In fact, most of them just make your machines slower and less stable." End of quote. The extra cost of buying anything Android based or AppleMac based over Windows is well worth the price. (And many would argue that Apple might be a step better than Android too except for not being able to escape iTunes etc)! Graham
And others would say Bollocks!!
I work in a reasonably large Engineering design office which uses Win7 laptops for general office duties as well as for Lab data acquisition/analysis applications and Win7 workstations for 3D drafting/analysis etc. We have one computer guy who's main job seems to be merely installing software on replacement machines every couple of years (works policy) - he doesn't spend his days hunting Trojans or burning witches etc., if fact I can't remember the last time I heard of anyone a work with a virus, let alone a mass outbreak.
At home I also run Win7 (on a 7yr old ex work lappy as it happens) without issue. You have to dredge some pretty terrible places on the 'net to be troubled by virus attacks or else you blindly open rogue emails and click to agree to install something nasty, which can happen regardless of OS.
I can't speak for others, but the only sites I 'dredge' I would rate similar to Beoworld. I agree you can download anything by clicking on dodgy links regardless of OS. The dodgy material thus downloaded does seem to have a greater effect on certain OS's though! My own experience over the years is workIng almost exclusively on Windows systems in some very large engineering companies. For years the best engineering software applications have been almost exclusively on Windows, with the arty crafty designers sticking with Apple. I stuck with Apple at home because of the ease of use of the OS, and it's tendency to be able to read files even when the .suffix was missing, although I did have to resort to using a Toshiba laptop for Windows stuff.
I guess all systems have their supporters, and constant use of one or the other leads one to favour it through familiarity.
On topic, I have never owned an iPhone, but I am always impressed by the ease with which my relatives use theirs to access maps or websites in comparison with my Android based phone. Having said that, my previous phone was a Serene. Nice as a phone but useless at anything else.
vikinger: I can't speak for others, but the only sites I 'dredge' I would rate similar to Beoworld. I agree you can download anything by clicking on dodgy links regardless of OS. The dodgy material thus downloaded does seem to have a greater effect on certain OS's though! My own experience over the years is workIng almost exclusively on Windows systems in some very large engineering companies. For years the best engineering software applications have been almost exclusively on Windows, with the arty crafty designers sticking with Apple. I stuck with Apple at home because of the ease of use of the OS, and it's tendency to be able to read files even when the .suffix was missing, although I did have to resort to using a Toshiba laptop for Windows stuff. I guess all systems have their supporters, and constant use of one or the other leads one to favour it through familiarity. On topic, I have never owned an iPhone, but I am always impressed by the ease with which my relatives use theirs to access maps or websites in comparison with my Android based phone. Having said that, my previous phone was a Serene. Nice as a phone but useless at anything else. Graham
I wouldn't class myself as a "supporter" but I feel the "virus ridden" reputation earned during the Win95/ IE6 days has long since gone and it has become a rather too convenient excuse wheeled out by the Apple brigade at every possible opportunity.
There are plenty of things I loathe about Apple, business wise, how they treat their customers and other vendors, etc. that I find less than acceptable, however I am also pretty agnostic about technology, if their tech suits my needs well I'll use it. No large multinational company is going to be the bees knees every way that matters to you so might as well pick what works.
I have an iPhone 5c, it did what I needed and was cheap when I changed providers, and I was used to the iOS environment. Same for my tablet upgrade, I was thinking of a MS Surface 2 but went with a new Air 2, between the B&O and Spotify and iTunes I'm too wedded to the iOS world due to AirPlay to the PlayMaker and such. If I wasn't I'd have probably turned to Windows Phones and tablets as the ability to talk to my NAS drive and existing printer would have been useful.
The main reason Apple has been relatively free from virus attacks is that for the most part they have had two things going for them, relatively better corporate image by the hacker types (as opposed to the Eeeeevil MS) and much smaller target size, about 4 rather than 95 percent of the PC market, you make a bigger splash hitting MS targets. That's changing I think due to the size of the iOS market and there have been some alarming malware lately that targets Apple specifically.
Puncher: I wouldn't class myself as a "supporter" but I feel the "virus ridden" reputation earned during the Win95/ IE6 days has long since gone and it has become a rather too convenient excuse wheeled out by the Apple brigade at every possible opportunity.
You're so right, Puncher. I'm a bit tired of reading this BS about Windows - mostly said and written by people who haven't used Windows since Win '95 or '98.And back then they had a cheap no-name computer with no anti-virus -and they had sooo many problems... And then, ofcourse it must still be that way...And sadly some Apple fans are over-eager to pass on every rumour or decidedly lie they can find. And even more eager to tell the World about how Apple is ALWAYS reliable -never ANY faults...never... Yeah right...You know what..? Mac's crashes too... And how about the problems at the release of Apple Maps... And how about the many problems users experienced when the iOS 7 was released...and - and...
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2014/04/angry-apple-fans-file-new-class-action-over-ios-7-problems-the-grayed-out-issue-and-much-more.html
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ios-7-problems/
I have not experienced any problems with Windows, since I had Windows 98 on an old PC 15 years ago.Today I have a Desktop running Win 7, a laptop running Win 8, a Surface 2 and a Lumia Windows Phone. Never once any problems.And I can stream music and videos to my TV and my stereo via a WD TV Live box.
Jeff: .... If I wasn't I'd have probably turned to Windows Phones and tablets as the ability to talk to my NAS drive ... would have been useful.
.... If I wasn't I'd have probably turned to Windows Phones and tablets as the ability to talk to my NAS drive ... would have been useful.
Why would you need a Win phone/tablet in order to 'talk to' your NAS drive?
What do you mean by 'talk to'?
I can access the (media) files on my NAS with my iPad without any problems - through the DLNA app's.
If there are dedicated (iOS) apps for your NAS (like those of the Synology), you could access all other files too.
If you really feel that you need to bring on a clearly biased posting like this, maybe you should do a little research...He's talking about a certain Windows Trojan virus - and says that Android and Mac's will not be affected by this... No sh.t Sherlock..! What a surprise!And you jump the waggon and tells people to buy Apple.
It's not like Apple products are immune to viruses, malware, etc.!!!
Perhaps you should read this article:
http://betanews.com/2014/12/05/macs-and-linux-come-under-attack-as-the-threat-landscape-shifts/
Here's just a Little quote from that article:
The latest monthly report from internet security specialist Doctor Web shows that whilst Windows and Android users have no cause for complacency, November saw substantial numbers of malicious programs aimed at Mac OS X and Linux platforms.