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NL network vs Local Ethernet Network

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Facel Posted: Wed, Jan 21 2015 2:26 PM

 

Could you clarified for me the following point.

 

Does the NL network has to be  separate from the Ethernet Network inside my house ?

What I mean is can I connect to the same switch some  NL B&O  products   and other standard

TCP/IP products   or should I have 2 separate networks (=> one for NL, the other for TCI/IP)

 

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Depending on how many NL products you plan to connect you should be fine connecting to your existing network with OK to Fine results. Assuming it isn't the same wireless/router given to you by your provider. You will need a decent router+switch to ensure smooth performance at all times. 

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Facel replied on Wed, Jan 21 2015 3:45 PM

Sorry I should have told you that

     - I have a Wired Network at home with a Gigabyte Switch connected to the router given to me by my provider ..
.    - I only use Wifi for Laptop / Iphone and .. my Nest Thermostat 

I would connect maybe up to 4 NL products ...

As summary ...  the NL protocol is a B&O proprietary protocol that can coexist without any problem with a standard TCP/IP protocol on my local Ethernet Network.

 

This explain  why the MLGW has only 1 Ethernet / RJ 45 connector and is also able to work with  new B&O product equipped with NL 

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NL is internet based. If I were you I would get an external Cisco/Linksys router and connect it to the providers modem/router and shut off the internal wireless broadcast from that router. Or just have them send you a modem to then connect to the newer router. Provider hardware is historically bad for B&O IP based setups. 

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Facel replied on Wed, Jan 21 2015 4:22 PM

 

Except for some securities issues (ie for giving a Wifi Internet acces to friends visiting me without accessing  my personnal network) I do not really feel necessary to use and additional router. (I live in a house, and There are  few Wifi networks (and neighbours around me)

Until now  my provider router (Freebox revolution)  has not been so bad 

Any way thanks for your advice based on experience that I do not have with NL product.

 

 

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Amazone replied on Wed, Jan 21 2015 8:50 PM

Don't make it too complex and don't use a separate ethernet network for your NL products. How would an ipad (for example) be able to connect to your NL product when it is in a separate network? Advise is to connect your NL products via a cable, not via Wifi. Wifi implementation is much less stable. When you are forced to use Wifi, make sure you have good quality equipment, and a strong signal. But I am afraid you will never get the same results as via a cabled connection.

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Especially if you use a switch, rather than a hub, your Internet traffic shouldn't interfere too much with your NL traffic.

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Facel replied on Thu, Jan 22 2015 8:49 AM

@ Amazone => I totally agree with you ... that is why I have Cat7 cables in almost every room for my connected devices

 

@PhiLondon => I do not follow you on this point because to me a hub duplicates all the traffic to every one increasing the traffic over your local Network

                               And knowing that generally the Audio / video Ethernet based devices are using 10 Mb interface, that should let enough space for traffic on a Domestic gigabyte Network

 

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Facel:
@PhiLondon => I do not follow you on this point because to me a hub duplicates all the traffic to every one increasing the traffic over your local Network

I was saying that he shouldn't worry too much, especially if he already has a switch, rather than a hub.

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Facel replied on Thu, Jan 22 2015 9:38 AM

Sorry PhiLondon, I misunderstood you .!!!

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Amazone:

 How would an ipad (for example) be able to connect to your NL product when it is in a separate network? Advise is to connect your NL products via a cable, not via Wifi. 

I was advocating not using your stock provider wireless router, so if you connect an external wireless router you would then be using it as the access point and the provider router as nothing more than the internet gateway to that point. Any device will see each other fine. As stated, provider hardware is usually garbage when connecting NL equipment. If you plan to have all connections wired into a switch then going to your provider hardware, then you will be fine until you put multiple loads on it streaming wise. Bottom line is I wouldn't skimp on a max $200 decent router that can handle everything appropriately you plan to connect to it. After all this is what B&O recommends as well.  A lot of problems I have overcome with peoples systems starts at the infrastructure delivery system. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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Facel replied on Fri, Jan 23 2015 9:49 AM

I perfectly share your point regarding the infrastructure quality.

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