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beobeta Posted: Mon, Aug 6 2018 10:49 PM

Hello BeoWorld,

We are starting up beta testing of AirPlay2 this month. This includes following products:

  • BeoPlay A9 2nd Gen
  • BeoPlay A6
  • BeoSound Essence 2nd Gen
  • BeoSound 35
  • BeoSound 1
  • BeoSound 2
  • Beoplay M5
  • Beoplay M3
  • BeoSound Core
  • BeoSound Shape

To sign up, we will require that you provide feedback on any issues that your might find.

If you would like to participate, please send a mail to  beta@bang-olufsen.dk with your product serial number (8 digit), full name and e-mail address. 

Disclamer: We might decline you as beta tester if no feedback is provided for long time or we have enough beta testers enrolled.

Best regards 

B&O Beta Community team 

(Privacy policy for B&O: https://www.bang-olufsen.com/privacy-policy)

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I thought all released products was beta?

At least the feedback I give on those you don’t care about.

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Hello beobeta (Lyle and team),

Welcome to BeoWorld!  It is good to have representatives from B&O in Struer participating in this forum, I know that many members have been wanting to pass product feedback to you and your colleagues at the factory for some time.

Can BeoWorld members contact you with feedback for all issues relating to current B&O products?  If not, can you provide alternative contact details for your colleagues who can be contacted with any other product feedback?

I would encourage you and your team to take as active a part in this forum as you are able - it is a superb way to get involved in the Worldwide community of B&O users and enthusiasts.  The members of this site include thousands of B&O's longest-standing and most loyal customers, who have a huge amount of insight into the way that your products, service and direction are impacting on your customer base.

You may be interested to take a look through some of the recent threads in the forum - I think many members would join me in encouraging you and your colleagues to add your responses to questions and comments that have been raised.

I look forward to joining you in future online discussions!

Kind regards, Steve.

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A bit more constructive comment than mine, Steve Big Smile

Thank you for clearifying Smile

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andy_js replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 10:07 AM
Will the Eclipse be getting AirPlay 2 support?
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moxxey replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 11:04 AM

andy_js:
Will the Eclipse be getting AirPlay 2 support?

I have a sneaky feeling BeoBeta isn't a proactive person who will enter in to forum debates Big Smile If you guys want to sign up, follow the instructions above.

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mbee replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 1:06 PM

I'll sign for the beta program, but I have to confess that this way of saying "no feedback=no software" is a bit rude in a forum where most of the people sent feedback about software issues to B&O and never got any reply.

In my case, Beocare said that they were aware of a software bug that makes some tunein radio stations unavailable (because of a change in the streaming module of their software) and the 20th of February they sent their last mail to say that they were thinking that a software update will correct this "in the future"...

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leogoeswild:

A bit more constructive comment than mine, Steve

Thank you for clearifying

Yes a great post(Ive) post Steve Big Smile

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mbee replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 5:26 PM

Update in progress on my A9...

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mbee replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 5:34 PM

False alert! I installed 1.17.24101.118790503 which seems to be a general update without any Airplay 2 feature!

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egges replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 9:57 PM

tha beta-crap is ridiculous and makes me angry! airplay 2 was announced for august, other brands already have it... just poor. there are already so many beta-testers for the, let‘s say boring, b&o-app; why can‘t it be tested with them (i‘m already in).

i was about to get a beosound 1 for the garden but go in that case for a libratone. really really poor. btw: the homepod is pretty good

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poodleboy replied on Tue, Aug 7 2018 10:51 PM

"the beta-crap is ridiculous and makes me angry! airplay 2 was announced for august, other brands already have it... just poor. there are already so many beta-testers for the, let‘s say boring, b&o-app; why can‘t it be tested with them (i‘m already in)."

Outside of that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

I do like the innovation of crowdsourcing your tech R&D for free. Did B&O learn that from Nova Nordisk?

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I think it's good B&O are targeting enthusiasts - many of us who have many unique use cases for some beta testing. 

lol.. either sign up or don't.

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egges:

tha beta-crap is ridiculous and makes me angry! airplay 2 was announced for august, other brands already have it... just poor. there are already so many beta-testers for the, let‘s say boring, b&o-app; why can‘t it be tested with them (i‘m already in).

i was about to get a beosound 1 for the garden but go in that case for a libratone. really really poor. btw: the homepod is pretty good

Wohnzimmer: BeoVision Avant 55", BeoLab 11, 12-2 und 12-3 für 5.1-Sound + amazonFireTV, appleTV (4th. gen.) und Samsung BluRay-Player; BeoSound 2, BeoSound 3000 (fast nur noch Deko)////Schlafzimmer: BeoEssence MkII, BeoLab 4000 + Samsung 46"-TV////Büro: BLC NL/ML, BeoSound 35, Thorens TD320MkII, Samsung 32"-TV, WesternDigital 4TB-Server////Bad: BeoLab 2000; alles CAT7 verkabelt////Küche: M5 (drahtlos) plus diverse apple-Geräte (macmini, macbook, ipads, iphones, timecapsule, watch)

Which libratone did you go with for the garden? i was also thinking of a second BS1 for the garden, but have doubts whether airplay-2 will be stable given b&o airplay history (or even released). i also have some worries whether it is powerful enough as garden speaker. unfortunately, i don’t have a plug in the garden, so the BS2 is not an option.
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mbee replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 7:06 AM

Just to give you the truth : Currently, I think there is just one brand appart Apple which has finalized its Airplay 2 update: Sonos.

Libratone was advertising end of June, and finally it should come in mid september (I had a Zipp CPH until now and I can tell you: no sign of any Airplay 2 compatibility. B&W (which can be directly compared to Beoplay in terms of pricing and performance has announced that there won't be any compatibility for any of their portable products. 

So before claiming that "other brands already have it", one should see what's happening on the other brands...

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that’s helpful context and makes my libratone question less relevant. i won’t buy a sonos for various reasons. and both don’t even have battery powered speakers. so, fair to wait what the next months will bring in terms of airplay-2. i’m using it with two ATVs and it works very well and is worth waiting for.
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Duels replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 7:45 AM
Aussie Michael:

I think it's good B&O are targeting enthusiasts - many of us who have many unique use cases for some beta testing.

lol.. either sign up or don't.

I agree completely.
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Aussie Michael:

I think it's good B&O are targeting enthusiasts - many of us who have many unique use cases for some beta testing. 

lol.. either sign up or don't.

I’d gladly sign up.

But since I’ll mostly be away from home the next two weeks, I’ll wait.......untill I am able to send the feedback from my setup.

MM

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egges replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 5:06 PM

mbee:

So before claiming that "other brands already have it", one should see what's happening on the other brands...

sorry for NOT checking again Libratone's website before posting, just amazon. but as you wrote, they advertised it end of june and in july. i noticed it at amazon at that time and checked Libratone's homepage where it WAS advertised. and it still is advertised on amazon.

anyway, i find it poor from B&O to announce airplay 2 for august and then just do a beta-test with a restricted amount of testers. they had an have with other products and features no inhibition to use the consumers as beta-testers.

outside of that, Mrs Lincoln, i still enjoy the play Smile

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mbee replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 5:30 PM

Just to give the truth again: after pre launch announcements saying that B&O will be one of the very first brands to support Airplay 2, B&O advertised for a release somewhere in September, not August. So depending on the beta stability, they could be on time.

Libratone advertised for an availability at the launch (beginning of June), then for something around the 22 June, then sometimes in September... so I don’t see where Libratone is better, I think that all the brands are struggling with this new API.

@steve1977: I only know 2 airplay (2) battery-powered speakers: Beosound 1 and Libratone Zipp. That’s quite strange considering all the Bluetooth battery-powered speakers around, Airplay 2 might be a niche market after all.

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beobeta replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 9:36 PM

Hi Andy,

Yes, target is that Eclipse will get AirPlay2 support as well Thumbs Up.

However, we are going to start with beta test releases to the audio products.

 

Best regards

B&O Beta team

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beobeta replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 9:47 PM

Hello again,

 

We have received many sign-ups and thanks for this.

All feedback from the beta program will be taken serious. Beta testers will get link to a reporting page for feedback. 

Communication with the beta testers will be taken up directly via emails.

 

Best regards

B&O Beta team

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Does B&O stand for Beta & Olufsen ?

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StUrrock replied on Wed, Aug 8 2018 10:02 PM
Aussie Michael:

I think it's good B&O are targeting enthusiasts - many of us who have many unique use cases for some beta testing.

lol.. either sign up or don't.

Enthusiasts seem to be a dying breed, sadly.
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poodleboy replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 12:14 AM

mbee:

Just to give the truth again: after pre launch announcements saying that B&O will be one of the very first brands to support Airplay 2, B&O advertised for a release somewhere in September, not August. So depending on the beta stability, they could be on time.

Fair point. I am sure it will be one of the very first brands to support Airplay 2, particularly on the BeoApp. So where are you placing how much currency on beta stability prior to release? Will Airplay 2 end up requiring versions II or III of current products? At what point do you quit relying on B&O "promises" to guide or influence buying decisions? And, if you end up disappointed, will you be confident that B&O will get your own product right? It is all about probabilities and trust at the end of the day, isn't it? 

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steve1977 replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 12:47 AM
Previous airplay bugs in b&o problems were largely HW and not SW based. Previous generations of B&O included only wifi with standard N (2.4) or even G, which wasn’t good enough for proper airplay implementation. i’m not aware of any single wifi G device from other manufacturer that managed a stable airplay connection.

i believe most (all?) current b&o devices include wifi AC. at least the ones like BS1&2 or A9 that support airplay-2. so, the HW is no longer the issue and i have some confidence b&o will get the SW right. ultimately it’s just a streaming protocol.

so, let me transport some confidence that it will actually work this time and we’ll have properly functioning airplay-2 devices soon.

only Q how long it will take and it seems others are slow too, so there aren’t even other choices.
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Just don’t release anything similar to the Beolit 12. Telling customer to buy a new WiFi-router is just lame.

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beobeta replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 1:00 PM

Dear all,

AirPlay2 has now been released to selected beta testers.

Those of you which have not received an email has not been selected.

We will keep your sign-up request for future when we are ready to enlist more beta testers.

 

Best regards

B&O Beta team

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I am sure a lot of those, who can not participate or were not selected, would like to hear about the first impressions of the beta testers. Maybe this thread could be the place for this kind of feedback.... .....rather than for discussing pros and cons of AirPlay2 and alike. MM

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Hiort replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 1:58 PM

My A6 and BS1 has just been updated, and now appear as a selectable Airplay2 device from my iPhone.

They appear with the same name that I have given them in the B&O App, 

Sound fully in sync. 

Possible to adjust either device volume or use a slider that adjust all devices simultaneous.

If I play over an ATV that is connected to my BV11 together with e.g BS1 the sound is not in sync.

 

 

 

 

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vlohjr1 replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 3:09 PM
Hiort:

My A6 and BS1 has just been updated, and now appear as a selectable Airplay2 device from my iPhone.

They appear with the same name that I have given them in the B&O App,

Sound fully in sync.

Possible to adjust either device volume or use a slider that adjust all devices simultaneous.

If I play over an ATV that is connected to my BV11 together with e.g BS1 the sound is not in sync.

Thanks for this. I presume it is single rather than multi source control? Ie same songs in different rooms?
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Hiort replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 3:32 PM
vlohjr1:

Thanks for this. I presume it is single rather than multi source control? Ie same songs in different rooms?

Yes, correct.

Same song in different rooms using e.g iPhones controls.

 

 

 

 

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I selected 3 sources as shown below. All were in standby mode. Pleasantly the ATV activated the BV on selection. The Essence and Core only activated when I pressed play.

There was a pause of seconds while the protesters bar stayed at 0 seconds.

Then it started moving.

However no sound came anywhere!

I verified I do have the required betas.

I have put everything back to standby and I’ll test again; I started the test at 6am, and I’ll wait until everyone is awake before playing with volumes, doing power recycling, selecting the ATV as the driver, adding the HomePod (the Guest below), and also using it as a source.

Coincidentally in my inbox this morning was an offer from Google to buy their Max speaker - must have just arrived in AU.

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elephant replied on Thu, Aug 9 2018 11:57 PM
Now here’s the puzzle .... this time the ATV did not switch on the ATV however the BLs did so no power recycling required. And I added the HomePod to the mix, and so I was controlling volume individually or en mass across the four sets of speakers.

No glitches, but I forgot to listen for lag through the ATV.

I am now tempted to replace the 2nd ATV on the BV8-32 so I could add the fifth set of speakers. But I am holding out for Apple’s Thanksgiving product rush and hoping to see a new generation ATV.

I do wish B&O would improve the experience with the BLC NL/ML as well, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I hope I shall get a chance to do more in-depth testing on the weekend !

Exciting times Big Smile

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steve1977 replied on Fri, Aug 10 2018 1:54 AM
Did you get an email confirmation that you’ve been accepted to the beta? i wrote an email a few days ago, but never heard back.
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elephant replied on Fri, Aug 10 2018 2:04 AM
steve1977:

Did you get an email confirmation that you’ve been accepted to the beta? i wrote an email a few days ago, but never heard back.

Sorry, yes I did.

Mine arrived 12 hours ago.

IE it was seemingly sent around midday in Struer on Thursday.

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elephant replied on Fri, Aug 10 2018 2:32 AM
Okay I’m getting some anomalous results from different parts of the system I have.

It may be that earlier experimentation between the Apple TV and the Apple HomePod around use of AirPlay2 has scrambled things within the Apple playground.

So I have just done a reset of my 3G ATV ... also it or it’s BV8-40 are also being very temperamental this morning.

Anyway the ATV reboot has improved things.

Big Smile

Let the testing resume !

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elephant replied on Fri, Aug 10 2018 2:44 AM
I have done two combo tests with the ATV as a source, and the HomePod as a source; that just leaves me to test iTunes on the various Macs.

What I have observed, and it is quite noticeable, is that the BV8-40 lags the Essence and the Core. That is the delay is inside the BV8 (my rudimentary analysing) — if the BV8 was an Eclipse receiving an AP2 stream it might be in synch !

This particularly surprised me with the ATV as the source - I expected the ATV’s HDMI cable to be ahead of the AP2 stream and the processing inside the Essence and the Core !

Screen shots of both sources at work ....

ATV as source

HomePod as source

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Big thanks for this insight and all pics elephant! Could you be so kind to confirm my two assuptions: a) if Homepod is set to be in (for example) Corridor and I say “play music in Living Room” while A9 being mapped in the living room - then only A9 will play? And b) in such case Homepod will be streaming source so my iPhone will not drain its battery and it actually does not to be on the WIFI at all?

The reason I’m asking is that I’d like to play music only on B&O Airplay2 devices while Homepod would be only the listening device/microphone and streaming unit. Thanks again. :)

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