in-ceiling Beolab 15&16

Hello, didnt find any variants of in-ceiling beolab 15&16. 

Can someone help me to find some pics of it?

Thanks.

You are right. On Google all pics are wall mounts. I guess the sub is not that good to install in ceiling but the 15 should be okay.

Hi,

I am using Beolab 15 in my ceiling as surround speakers, and they work out great.

I am using beolab 19 subwoofer, so I did not need beo 16 - you can buy 15 separate from 16.

The 15 are in the ceiling and are getting the signal wirelessly via transmittor 1.

Hope this helps.

The BL 15/16 set maybe is a bit underestimated.

In times, where multichannel audio (with more than 5.1 channels) becomes more interesting, it could be used more often.

MM

Millemissen:

The BL 15/16 set maybe is a bit underestimated.

In times, where multichannel audio (with more than 5.1 channels) becomes more interesting, it could be used more often.

MM

Over here in the US, the Atmos surround sound is the new thing.  In addition to the regular 5.1 set up, that can be extended to 5.1.4, the 4 being (ideally) ceiling mounted speakers to simulate height/elevation.  Obviously, the extra 4 channels need to be encoded in the disc you are playing.

The other speaker option is to have add-on speakers on top of the front and back speakers pointing at the ceiling.  The idea is that the sound bounces off of the ceiling.  I guess with this setup, the manufacturers are counting on people thinking that the sound wave is a narrow beam.

In Sound and Vision magazine, there was a review of a Pioneer receiver that was Atmos equipped.  There was also a review of Pioneer and Definitive Technology speakers with top-mounted drivers pointed at the ceiling for the height channels.

If were to go this way, I'd definitely look at B & O's Beolab 15.  The lower frequency for the "height" signals is 180 Hz so one doesn't need a big woofer installed in the ceiling.

It appears that the BeoLab 15 doesn't include amplifiers.  Maybe I'd go with the (active) BeoLab 3's to go along with the rest of my set up.

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Actually I was thinking about using the 15 as the ceiling speakers for Atmos. The power movement would add some magic into the mix.

Afraid I need to wait until Atmos decoding becomes available on PC

Things are quite complicated with Dolby Atmos (and the other multi-multi channel systems).

Of course the soundtrack must be encoded in Atmos.. (don't forget, that only very few titles are available by now).

The bigger problem, however is, that somewhere in the 'audio chain' you will have to decode that track into the appropriate number of channels for the loudspeakers in the setup.

The pre-pro (aka audioengine) of the BSys4-based products can handle a lot of channels - so no problem there! 

Just get the right amount of active speakers (BeoLabs... including the 15-set) and you - theoretically - should be good to go.

However the BSys4-based product range has no decoding capacities for Dolby Atmos (or Auro3D, or DTS:X/MDA, or...). The decoding (into PCM, which the B&O tv's can handle) must be done externally....

....in a PC or a BRP for example.

Fine ---- if it was not for the small problem, that the current HDMI 2.0 standart only handles up to 8 channels of PCM sound

Means - you won't have the posibility to listen to a Dolby Atmos soundtrack in a B&O setup - period!

At least not untill the audioengines are updated with the needed decoders, in order to just do bitstreaming of the soundtrack from the external device.

When and if that is ever going to happen, is a big question

Just imagine how few of the (B&O) costumers will be willing to invest in the extra 4 (or more) speakers, and will have the gut to convince the 'misstres of the house' to do a redecorating/rebuild of the livingroom......just for the sake of a few Dolby Atmos soundtracks!

I am not sure, that the B&O management will think of the B&O-user as the target group for Dolby Atmos etc.

 

Another way to handle the multi-multi channel issue would be to use the upmixing capacities of the audio engine of the newer BV's.

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2013/12/06/bo-tech-trueimage-upmixing/

Even with the Dolby Atmos-thing the more interesting part might be the upmixer, that Dolby has made.

There aren't many real Atmos encoded titles yet, and the new (Dolby Atmos) upmixer seems to do a much better job than previous upmixer versions (ProLocic ll etc).

For those (few) with more than a 7.1 speaker setup, It could be interesting to explore, whether the upmixing through DAU or through the B&O 'True Image' upmixer does the better job.

Maybe it turns out, that Geoff Martin has done an excellent job - and that we already have multi-multi channel capacities in our B&O tv's...for free.

Personally I would not 'invest in' a - or wait for - a Dolby Atmos setup (there are way too few Dolby Atmos-enabled titles yet) ------- and what if 'my favorite' movie happens to be distributed with a Auro3D instead

 

MM

And, as i understand, i can  rotate beolab15 (so change the diraction of sound) anytime i want?

Actually I don't use B&O as the source for decoding. I'm using the exaSound e28 to feed analog audio to my B&O speakers so HDMI is purely for visual output and not a factor for my setup. As it stands the lack of encoded material and decoding software is the biggest impediment for me on the Atmos.

Of course I'd have to retire the exaSound DAC once Atmos decoding software comes out.