Sign in   |  Join   |  Help
Untitled Page

ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022
READ ONLY FORUM

This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022

 

Essence-inspired home control knob

rated by 0 users
This post has 24 Replies | 2 Followers

leosgonewild
Top 50 Contributor
Helsinki, Finland
Posts 2,373
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
leosgonewild Posted: Fri, May 15 2015 6:29 AM

This looks very interesting. http://9to5toys.com/2015/05/14/nuimo-sonos-philips-hue-nest/#more-147795

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

AnalogPlanet
Top 150 Contributor
Vienna, Austria
Posts 678
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Thanks, just pledged for one white Nuimo. :) Mostly to control Hue lights - however as they continue to add support for various "smart" things I will for sure find more ways to utilize it.

NB: I am using Beosound Essence table remote with A9 and I love the experience. <3

leosgonewild
Top 50 Contributor
Helsinki, Finland
Posts 2,373
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
I just ordered two essence remotes. Really bugs me. Guess they will go straight to eBay.

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

BillC
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 121
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BillC replied on Fri, May 15 2015 7:01 PM
I used the Essence remote to control my Playmaker volume. Love the analog experience Big Smile . Hopefully I can use this one to drive my HTPC

Aussie Michael
Top 25 Contributor
Melbourne, AU
Posts 3,730
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

BillC:
I used the Essence remote to control my Playmaker volume. Love the analog experience Big Smile . Hopefully I can use this one to drive my HTPC

Hi Bill, How did you do this? is it just in close proximity and it works?  Or is there a special set up needed?

Thanks in advance. 

TWG
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,672
OFFLINE
Gold Member
TWG replied on Sun, May 17 2015 9:35 AM

leosgonewild:
I just ordered two essence remotes. Really bugs me. Guess they will go straight to eBay.



Which one did you order, Leo? Wallmounted or tabletop?

 

Simonbeo
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,451
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Simonbeo replied on Sun, May 17 2015 10:04 AM

Was the B&O Essence controller inspired by a nest-like existing product?

if not the startup in Berlin doing this should put some money aside in case B&O want to sue them !

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802159142/nuimo-seamless-smart-home-interface/video_share

Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1

AnalogPlanet
Top 150 Contributor
Vienna, Austria
Posts 678
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

...or B&O buys that startup and improves Essence Remote to a new level. <3 <3 <3

That's not realistic, but dreaming is free. :D

Simonbeo
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,451
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Simonbeo replied on Sun, May 17 2015 10:27 AM
"1,055
backers
€126,802
pledged of €55,000 goal

26
days to go"
Not too expensive for them to back it now?

Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1

Millemissen
Top 10 Contributor
Flensborg, Denmark
Posts 14,680
OFFLINE
Gold Member

Seems interesting indeed Smile

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

Simonbeo
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,451
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
Simonbeo replied on Sun, May 17 2015 11:48 AM

Millemissen:

Seems interesting indeed Smile

MM

How much of the video is vapourware?

if they can really deliver the functions it does look very interesting. Perhaps they are just intending to sell the idea on unfinished but the similarity to the style of the Beoproduct is a shame for B&O. 

Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8. Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.Beosound 1

Millemissen
Top 10 Contributor
Flensborg, Denmark
Posts 14,680
OFFLINE
Gold Member

I'll wait to see, if there will be an actual product - and then decide, whether I need these functions or not.

As for the similarity, it will be up to the layers of B&O to decide, if it is 'too much'.

By now - reading about it on Beoworld - they might be aware of it in Struer.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

TWG
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,672
OFFLINE
Gold Member
TWG replied on Sun, May 17 2015 1:27 PM

If you look at their press shots, it seems clear to the people in Struer where NUIMO took their "inspiration" from.

But the question is:
Should B&O sue them for copying the design?
I think the best would be if B&O works together with them and refines the craftsmanship or rework the Essence controller. Smile

If it's a cheap ripoff, B&O should sue them. B&O missed so much opportunities (still back till the days when the first iPod used to have the Beocom Scrollwheel...).


The biggest problems I personally have with those "startups":
- long term market existence
- support
- long term support

You can burn a lot of money in all this kickstarter things and the young companies have to proof if they are worth their money.
Selling products is no difficult task, that can be done by everybody.

They all have flashy videos and presentations but nowadays too many products are only shiny on the outside but crappy cheap junk on the inside.

Quality? Foreign word. Smile

BeoBoy68
Top 75 Contributor
Alsace 🇨🇵
Posts 1,247
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BeoBoy68 replied on Sun, May 17 2015 1:46 PM
Devialet is the first manufacturer to have presented a wheel-shaped remote control - 5 years ago.

Bang & Olufsen designed a poor copy. No - thumbs down

the new Phantom's remote control
TWG
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,672
OFFLINE
Gold Member
TWG replied on Sun, May 17 2015 2:01 PM

Ok, then Devialet was first and I have to admit that they realy show what's technological possible! Smile

The Essene remote is a well made - but much simpler - remote controller than the Devialet version which can used for more purposes than the Devialet version.

Essence controller:
- Light control
- Audio/Video control
- Bluetooth control

I like the Devialet version, too and I guess it's very well made!

chartz
Top 25 Contributor
Burgundy, France
Posts 4,171
OFFLINE
Gold Member
chartz replied on Sun, May 17 2015 2:18 PM

Devialet is not real hifi I hear, and it is overrated. And expensive. They copied B&O.

 

 

Jacques

leosgonewild
Top 50 Contributor
Helsinki, Finland
Posts 2,373
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

I ordered two of the tabletop remotes. They are priced the same, but they are the same thing. You are ablt to mount the tabletop remote on the wall if you remove the plate.

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

AnalogPlanet
Top 150 Contributor
Vienna, Austria
Posts 678
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Please notify when they go on eBay. :D I was planning to buy another one (table remote).

leosgonewild
Top 50 Contributor
Helsinki, Finland
Posts 2,373
OFFLINE
Bronze Member

Send me a PM instead.

"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"

Millemissen
Top 10 Contributor
Flensborg, Denmark
Posts 14,680
OFFLINE
Gold Member

TWG:

Ok, then Devialet was first and I have to admit that they realy show what's technological possible! Smile

Big question - who invented the wheel Crying

 

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV

BeoBoy68
Top 75 Contributor
Alsace 🇨🇵
Posts 1,247
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BeoBoy68 replied on Sun, May 17 2015 9:23 PM
Millemissen:

Big question - who invented the wheel

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

B&O didn't invent the wheel but certainly take inspiration from Devialet remote control.

Shame for this Danish brand which was more creative in the past as today. Jacob Jensen and David Lewis miss us. Sad
BillC
Top 500 Contributor
Posts 121
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BillC replied on Sun, May 17 2015 9:52 PM
Hi Michael

Nothing special, just left it in the default mode ( I think) and it'd drive the volume of the Playmaker. I can't remember which mode honestly worst case is just switch the remote to one for old B&O devices.

It was painless and seems like the Playmaker has an IR sensor. It's currently about 2m away from the Playmaker
BeoBoy68
Top 75 Contributor
Alsace 🇨🇵
Posts 1,247
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BeoBoy68 replied on Sun, May 17 2015 9:53 PM
chartz:

Devialet is not real hifi I hear, and it is overrated. And expensive. They copied B&O.

Jacques

Open your ears Big Smile

If Devialet is not HiFi, Bang & Olufsen is not either.

Which Devialet system did you listen ?

Which speakers did you connect with Devialet amplifier ?

Did you listen the new compact Phantom in stereo mode ?

The price is correct for the handmade quality.

State of Art - Made in France

TWG
Top 75 Contributor
Posts 1,672
OFFLINE
Gold Member
TWG replied on Mon, May 18 2015 6:30 AM

Millemissen:

Big question - who invented the wheel Crying

MM

 

I guess the wheel was invented ca. 3000 years ago by a guy looking like Chewbacca and called "Ugh". Big Smile

Let's not fight what's better: Just buy what fits your needs. I like the idea with a real display inside of the round wheel. Looks nice.

The Essence wheel is dumb proof:
I have one of the tabletop versions on my night desk and I just need to turn the wheel in the darkness to switch on the programmed light. No fiddling, no searching.
Just a little fighting because my little daughter is highly interested in the Essence controller. Wink

When I go to bed I just need to hold the standby button for a couple of seconds and everything switches off. Very nice.

But the infrared part of the wheel is not very precise as the commands for volume control in IR mode seem to be sent out delayed and in a bunch: You spin the wheel and nothing happens on your audiosystem, you spin again and volume suddenly jumps up! Is this normal? Can anybody confirm this behaviour of the tabletop remote?


 

BeoBoy68
Top 75 Contributor
Alsace 🇨🇵
Posts 1,247
OFFLINE
Bronze Member
BeoBoy68 replied on Mon, May 18 2015 7:32 AM
TWG:

...Very nice. But the infrared part of the wheel is not very precise as the commands for volume control in IR mode seem to be sent out delayed and in a bunch: You spin the wheel and nothing happens on your audiosystem, you spin again and volume suddenly jumps up! Is this normal? Can anybody confirm this behaviour of the tabletop remote?

I confirm that there is a delay period. It is a shame.
Page 1 of 1 (25 items) | RSS