BS Essence connections

Hi,

Don't think this link has been posted before, it is different connection possibilities for the BS Essence, a few have been discussed previously.

https://beocincinnati.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201492343/BeoSoundEssence-InstallationGuide.pdf

Also any one know if the IR socket is active and is there an IR senor available?

Regards

Toby

badgersurf:

Also any one know if the IR socket is active and is there an IR senor available?

No IR Sensor integrated in the BS Essence like the Playmaker.

Yes you can connect an IR sensor.

See your dealer

Nothing new there - at least not to me

It is a very good overview of the possible setups with the Essence - so thanks for that link.

It might be usefull and inspiring to costumers, who want to extent their BeoSystems with new functions.

 

Yes - indeed there is a ir-sensor for the Essence (hide-away-box). It has the item number 8089119 and can be ordered at your local B&O.

 

Those, who now has gotten interested in the Essence, may wait a couple of months. With the 2nd Generation version there might be more options/possibilities to come.

Those, who already have the Essence - there has been an info in another thread about an external 'black box', that would make the 1th gen multiroom.

No further details known by now.

 

MM

Great link thanks for posting

In Use Case 7, could i incorporate an essence to my avant so that i could use the attached speakers? with the TV off and not powering on.

I dont have a wireless transmitter 1 however i thought the avant really has this technology built in.

Thanks

Michael.

 

 

Aussie Michael:

Great link thanks for posting

In Use Case 7, could i incorporate an essence to my avant so that i could use the attached speakers? with the TV off and not powering on.

I dont have a wireless transmitter 1 however i thought the avant really has this technology built in.

Thanks

Michael.

Michael

WISA is an agreed high fidelity (same room) wireless speaker standard versus Beolink Wireless one which is B&O proprietary militia-room wireless that carries masterlink commend & control as well as audio.

Hi, 

Many thanks for posting the link with the options. 

I am considering buying a Beosound Essence. The reason for buying is that I want to start playing music (stored and from music services) without turning on the television.

My current set up is a Beovision 10-32 connected to a set of beolab speakers. I use an Apple TV connected to the Beovision to stream music from my phone via Airplay (Spotify/Qobuz) and access my now music stored on a mac through home sharing. 

I want to connect the Essence to the Beovision with option 6. As I understand it I then have one touch music start through the essence remote and I can change the volume with it. This would also allow me to use the tone control settings of the Beovision. Changing tracks and sources can be done with the Beomusic app. 

In order for this to work option 6 states that "In the TV source settings, the “RADIO” source must be assigned to the BeoSound Essence". However if I go to the "connection" settings on my Beovision and cannot choose a RADIO source (I can only choose V.MEM, DVD, DVD2, DTV2, V.AUX2 and PC, i.e.. all video sources). 

So, my question is how do I assign the RADIO source to the Essence on my Beovision? 

Thanks in advance for your replies and sorry in advance if this has been answered before (I could not find a satisfactory answer). 

Peter

Hi, 

Many thanks for posting the link with the options. 

I am considering buying a Beosound Essence. The reason for buying is that I want to start playing music (stored and from music services) without turning on the television. 

My current set up is a Beovision 10-32 connected to a set of beolab speakers. I use an Apple TV connected to the Beovision to stream music from my phone via Airplay (Spotify/Qobuz) and access my own music stored on a mac through home sharing. 

I want to connect the Essence to the Beovision with option 6. As I understand it I then have one touch music start through the essence remote and I can change the volume with it. This would also allow me to use the tone control settings of the Beovision. Changing tracks and sources can be done with the Beomusic app. 

In order for this to work option 6 states that "In the TV source settings, the “RADIO” source must be assigned to the BeoSound Essence". However if I go to the "connection" settings on my Beovision. I cannot choose a RADIO source (I can only choose V.MEM, DVD, DVD2, DTV2, V.AUX2 and PC, i.e.. all video sources). 

So, my question is how do I assign the RADIO source to the Essence on my Beovision? 

Thanks in advance for your replies and sorry if this has been answered before (I could not find a satisfactory answer). 

Peter

PeterBOBP:

Hi,

Many thanks for posting the link with the options.

I am considering buying a Beosound Essence. The reason for buying is that I want to start playing music (stored and from music services) without turning on the television.

My current set up is a Beovision 10-32 connected to a set of beolab speakers. I use an Apple TV connected to the Beovision to stream music from my phone via Airplay (Spotify/Qobuz) and access my own music stored on a mac through home sharing.

I want to connect the Essence to the Beovision with option 6. As I understand it I then have one touch music start through the essence remote and I can change the volume with it. This would also allow me to use the tone control settings of the Beovision. Changing tracks and sources can be done with the Beomusic app.

In order for this to work option 6 states that "In the TV source settings, the “RADIO” source must be assigned to the BeoSound Essence". However if I go to the "connection" settings on my Beovision. I cannot choose a RADIO source (I can only choose V.MEM, DVD, DVD2, DTV2, V.AUX2 and PC, i.e.. all video sources).

So, my question is how do I assign the RADIO source to the Essence on my Beovision?

Thanks in advance for your replies and sorry if this has been answered before (I could not find a satisfactory answer).

Peter

Wait on the essence second generation.

Hi Peter,

with the older BV's you cannot assign a source to an 'audio source'-button on the Beo4.

Means you can connect the Essence to the BV10 (via scartadapter) and map that input to a free one from the list you mentioned. Tip - use the AV button before you push the choosen button in order to have a muted screen right away.

But you cannot activate that source (and control the volumen) with the ir of the Essence/wheely!

Hi MM, 

Thanks a lot for your answer!

Too bad. thought I had found a cheap solution to start music without turning on the TV.....

Thanks for the tip I did not know that, I always use P.MUTE but this is better in some cases. 

For now I'll keep my current set up as is.

Will still be a bit too complicated for some in my household though so I guess Beosund 5 or Moment would be the only way to accomplish (simple) music operation.......... 

Peter 

 

 

 

PeterBOBP:

Too bad. thought I had found a cheap solution to start music without turning on the TV.....

Thanks for the tip I did not know that, I always use P.MUTE but this is better in some cases. 

Happy to see that I am not the only one looking for a way to start music without turning on the TV (without using P.Mute).

The only way I found so far is to buy a BS6/BM5, which would bring this functionality.

You refer this does not work with older BVs. Is everything besides the BV11 considered "old"? Could the 2nd gen Essence bring a solution?

PeterBOBP:

Too bad. thought I had found a cheap solution to start music without turning on the TV.....

Thanks for the tip I did not know that, I always use P.MUTE but this is better in some cases. 

Happy to see that I am not the only one looking for a way to start music without turning on the TV (without using P.Mute).

The only way I found so far is to buy a BS6/BM5, which would bring this functionality.

You refer this does not work with older BVs. Is everything besides the BV11 considered "old"? Could the 2nd gen Essence bring a solution?

'Happy to see that I am not the only one looking for a way to start music without turning on the TV (without using P.Mute).'

That is called an 'AudioSystem' - where you can plug in speakers for a stereo setup (or with built-in speaker like the A9 2nd Gen).

The solution would be if the Essence remote ('knob') could send Bluetooth and IR commands simultaniously. And in the Setup app it should be possible to configure which IR command to send (A.AUX, RADIO, AV-V.AUX...). This way you could connect the Essence to an 'old' Beovision or an Audiomaster and start playing music by pressing only the button on the 'knob'. This should be realized in Momend 2nd gen.

Regards

Räuber

Millemissen:

'Could the 2nd gen Essence bring a solution?'

No - not if you want to connect it the same way, since the 'problem' was: not being able to use an audio command/button on the BV10 for it.

MM

What if they add Network Link to the second generation? 

That way one touch music start could be achieved, also with older products (with NL/ML converter), right? 

Also makes more sense from a product portfolio perspective; all B&O products would be integrable with other (new&old) B&O products and all Beoplay products would be stand alone. 

 

 

A good reflection!

But the question is, if we will be able to distribute from the Essence (2nd gen) - or for that matter from the A9 (2nd gen, or just to it/these?

Maybe the BS Essence will be the center of distributing sound - hence the name of the 'brick': Soundheart!

P.S. the Essence (2nd gen) will be NL - just like the A9 (2nd gen)

MM

Raeuber:

The solution would be if the Essence remote ('knob') could send Bluetooth and IR commands simultaniously. And in the Setup app it should be possible to configure which IR command to send (A.AUX, RADIO, AV-V.AUX...)

I am not sure it would be possible to send both ir- and bluetooth-commands simultainiously?

 

And I doubt, that the configuration of the ir-commands can be done 'in the app'.

This would mean, that the 'wheely' should be a part of the wireless networks as well.

And if, why didn't they already do it - instead of the 'oldfashioned' jumper solution, that is now used?

 

MM

Millemissen:

I am not sure it would be possible to send both ir- and bluetooth-commands simultainiously?

And I doubt, that the configuration of the ir-commands can be done 'in the app'.

This would mean, that the 'wheely' should be a part of the wireless networks as well.

And if, why didn't they already do it - instead of the 'oldfashioned' jumper solution, that is now used?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Hi MM,

regarding configuration of the knob via app: I agree with you, but with the jumpers it should be possible.

The knob has inbuilt IR and Bluetooth transmitters. That's why I guess it should be possible to send both commands simultaniously.

But at the end of the day it's not a question of 2nd generation upgrade, it should be implemented in 1st generation by a software update.

Probably B&O isn't interested in such an update, although I would buy the Essence with this functionality (starting music by 'one touch' in a Masterlink system) without hesitation.

Greets from Räuber

I am told the second gen will appear as a network source and ALLOW distribution

Except spotify.. Licensing, etc.

It shall be very interesting to learn, what the 2nd gen-upgrade brings.

However, I do not see much chance for 'distribution' of Spotify.

MM

Raeuber:

Probably B&O isn't interested in such an update, although I would buy the Essence with this functionality (starting music by 'one touch' in a Masterlink system) without hesitation.

Could you give an example of how this should work?

Which music should start by 'one touch'?

How should the Essence know what to play?

(Which would be the commands from a ML-linkroom?)

Apart from playing the last played song in a playlist or last played radio station, I don't see how/what....

But maybe that is, what you mean (and need)?

MM

What I anticipate is that you'll now be able to 'join' one essence with another

So the streaming music from one iDevice to one essence should be able to be 'joined' by the other products. ... At least that's what I think it will do.

I stream spotify though the beosound 5.

The issue is the digital streaming with that source I guess.

I'd the U.S. Would hurry along and get deezer we could lose spotify.

But until then.. We're all spotify for music on command.

Millemissen:

Could you give an example of how this should work?

Which music should start by 'one touch'?

How should the Essence know what to play?

(Which would be the commands from a ML-linkroom?)

Apart from playing the last played song in a playlist or last played radio station, I don't see how/what....

But maybe that is, what you mean (and need)?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I would like to connect Essence either to AUX-IN of BS9000 or Scart/Cinch of BV7 (assigned to DTV2, DVD2 or V.AUX2) with 'one-touch music start'. Therefore the knob should be able to send Blutooth signals to Essence AND IR signal to BS9000 (AMEM) or to BV7 (A-DTV2, A-DVD2 or A-V.AUX2 to switch on BV7 in audio mode).

Actually the disadvantage is: 'BS Essence Remote cannot be used to start the full system, with a single touch (i.e. customer needs to first start audio master to “A. AUX” source)', look at e.g. 3. in connection guide.

With such a solution I could start playing the last spotify song or radio station by 'one touch'. If I want to change music I have to use my IPad, of course.

In linkroom I would need a second 'knob' for this 'one-touch-solution'. And it would only work if Bluetooth signal is strong enough to reach the Essence. If not I could join to active Essence by pressing A.MEM on Beo4 in linkroom (multiroom solution).

In general I like the idea of Essence very much, because music is streamed only from the router to Essence (Spotify Connect or TuneIn Radio) and not from the router to IPad and then to Essence, means IPad is only the remote for the Essence (but I fear Spotify Connect will be sorted out with 2nd gen. Essence).

Actually I use airplay for streaming music from IPad to Apple TV. This works fine as long as I don't use my IPad for other purposes at the same time, then there are sometimes dropouts because of the performance of the IPad.

Regards

Räuber

Raeuber:

I would like to connect Essence either to AUX-IN of BS9000 or Scart/Cinch of BV7 (assigned to DTV2, DVD2 or V.AUX2) with 'one-touch music start'. Therefore the knob should be able to send Blutooth signals to Essence AND IR signal to BS9000 (AMEM) or to BV7 (A-DTV2, A-DVD2 or A-V.AUX2 to switch on BV7 in audio mode).

With such a solution I could start playing the last spotify song or radio station by 'one touch'. If I want to change music I have to use my IPad, of course.

.....

In general I like the idea of Essence very much, because music is streamed only from the router to Essence (Spotify Connect or TuneIn Radio) and not from the router to IPad and then to Essence, means IPad is only the remote for the Essence (but I fear Spotify Connect will be sorted out with 2nd gen. Essence).

......

Regards

Räuber

 

That is exactly what I want in my set up: one touch start and handle source switch, playlist, song selection etc via Iphone/Ipad without interruption (so Spotify connect is a great idea). 

 

Millemissen:

.....

But the question is, if we will be able to distribute from the Essence (2nd gen) - or for that matter from the A9 (2nd gen, or just to it/these?

Maybe the BS Essence will be the center of distributing sound - hence the name of the 'brick': Soundheart!

....

MM

Maybe you are right and maybe I should see the Essence in the (future) B&O portfolio primarily as a receiver in a multilink set up. 

Until now however I thought the Essence was a (proper) sound system for people not in need of yet another end user device.

People that have an iphone/Ipad at hand all the time (or rather in their hand ;-) ) and are comfortabel or prefer the idevice interface and flexibility above and beyond what the Moment can offer. 

Peter

 

PeterBOBP:

(MM: I assume you mean BS Moment in the second line)

Maybe you are right and maybe I should see the Essence in the (future) B&O portfolio primarily as a receiver in a multilink set up. 

Until now however I thought the Essence was a (proper) sound system for people not in need of yet another end user device.

People that have an iphone/Ipad at hand all the time (or rather in their hand ;-) ) and are comfortabel or prefer the idevice interface and flexibility above and beyond what the Moment can offer. 

Peter

Thanks - indeed I meant the BS Moment there 😿

It is my understanding, that the Essence (2nd) just as the A9 (2nd) (and the NL-tv's) will play the part of a receiver for the sources of the BS Moment.

But, I guess we will know more, when the expected update in week 20 is out - then we will at least see how the A9 (2nd) behaves.

Just imagine if you have a Moment, an Essence and the A9 in your NL-setup - how would you manage that/control that, if you were able to draw from each of them to any of the others. It would be a chaos to control.

P.S. It may be, that 'People that have an iphone/Ipad at hand all the time (or rather in their hand ;-) ) and are comfortabel or prefer the idevice interface and flexibility above and beyond what the Moment can offer.' This certainly goes for, all that the iDevice is capable of....apart from being a part of a Bang & Olufsen audiosystem.

The Moment is a part of the NL-setup. If you use an iDevice, you will have to send sound from that to a source/an input (usually A.Mem/A.Aux), that is part of the system. You will have to control the volume from the Beo4, but you will have to activate the app to skip track etc.....

Not very intuitive, I'd say. The BS Moment integrates it in one device.

MM