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I know it have been disussed before, but never models are probably on the market.
What is a good option to a Beosystem3/4.
I would like to change out my BV7 for a non-B&O 4K television. But my setup consists of Beolab speakers, so I am in nead of a surround receiver with rca/phono connections.
Are there any good options? And of course price does matter a lot.
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
leosgonewild: I know it have been disussed before, but never models are probably on the market. What is a good option to a Beosystem3/4. I would like to change out my BV7 for a non-B&O 4K television. But my setup consists of Beolab speakers, so I am in nead of a surround receiver with rca/phono connections. Are there any good options? And of course price does matter a lot.
It sounds like you're looking for a preamp/processor. (Technically, a receiver consists of preamp, tuner, and amplifier in one unit).
I have an Integra DHC-80.3 that I purchased second-hand but unused. There have been reports about some of these units having video card troubles but mine has been good.
I suggest getting a preamp/processor with Audyssey or other surround sound setup system. Basically, this type of system has a furnished microphone that plugs into the preamp. The user locates the microphone at the listening position. Then, the preamp will send test signals to each speaker in the system. The preamp's software will (depending on it's capabilities), adjust frequency response, phase, and volume for each speaker independently. There are often ways to run this protocol at several listening positions. Make sure you see what the specific capabilities are for each preamp's software as there are differences. I know that there are different grades of Audyssey, for instance.
If you are interested in Atmos and/or Auro-3D, check this one out:
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/marantz-av8802-surround-processor-review#rVsgdF7uo27hUw32.97
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@leonsgonewild
is a 4K tv really that important to you?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I was constantly evaluating same idea, but then I realized above Marantz (which I like a lot btw) is around 2K EUR. Then add 3-4K EUR for a hiend 4K TV. Then add something to send it wirelessly to new Beolabs. Add value of a motorized stand. Add front speakers for non-B&O TV. And then you get to Avant 55" price +/-.
With a lot more boxes, wires etc. *sigh*
I would second the recommendation to pick something with automatic room setup, my Marantz receiver (my audio system is B&O, my video system is separate) has it and it worked flawlessly. I'd also pick something that provides a power on signal via a DC output and use cables that would take this and use it to drive the power on signal in the PL connector, if you're using wires.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
I have a Yamaha RX-A830 with a Transmitter and Beolab 17 and Beolab 19
PROS:
2 HDMI output, one for tv one for projector
Cheap was 500€ for receiver, a bit less for the transmitter.
Cheaper to change tv, as that is something I do a lot.
Bulit in Airplay.
Works great, have a Logitech harmony to have less remotes.
CONS:
Not the beoremote one, it would be nice and I guess almost worth it.
I guess in my case there is not many cons, as the beosystem will not suit my needs, and I change TV way to often for justifying buying B&O.
I am not saying never an avant, as it is a really really good tv, but in this changing world I feel that speaker is the only item you know is not going to change to much.
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
Maybe an older surround processor / preamplifier would fit your needs. For example a Rotel RSP-1069. Or one of the older flagships from ARCAM, Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha, Sony...A very good benefit of the better equipped preamps is the possibility of source naming: Then you can see on its display which current source is playing. Instead of "DVD" it can show "PS 4", "Beosound"... etc. The current 4K TVs are doing a very good job at upscaling signals but you should check if the 4K-TV is fast enough for gaming. The first versions where not!
I do have a spare BV7-32. Is it the same surround module in this as in a BV7-40? Can´t get my head around what I read on beophile...
From what I understand there is a Beosystem 3 in my BV7-40. But is it the same in the BV7-32?
leosgonewild: From what I understand there is a Beosystem 3 in my BV7-40. But is it the same in the BV7-32?
Yes, starting from Mk3. But you said that yours is only 720p, so it is an earlier version unfortunately without it. The BV7 televisions with the Beosystem 3 are the BV7-40 starting from Mk3 and the BV7-55 (all versions). All these are 1080p.
The BV7-32 doesn't have the Beosystem 3 processor.
Regards,
Jean
AnalogPlanet:I was constantly evaluating same idea, but then I realized above Marantz (which I like a lot btw) is around 2K EUR. Then add 3-4K EUR for a hiend 4K TV. Then add something to send it wirelessly to new Beolabs. Add value of a motorized stand. Add front speakers for non-B&O TV. And then you get to Avant 55" price +/-. With a lot more boxes, wires etc. *sigh*
leosgonewild:But it has a proper surround module?
Of course it is possible. It only depends on how much work you want to put into that.The surround modul of the early BV7 have internally one s/pdif input and is controlled via I2C.There is also an input for the PL data and all the PL sockets are directly onto that board.
If you really want to go this way you would have to get access to this PCB and either look for a datasheet of the used sound IC or hook up a logic analyser to the I2C bus to understand the commands for startup and volume control.
If this was sucessful you can remove the modul from your TV, hook up the right supply voltages and start experimenting with e.g. an Arduino to control that thing.
This would be indeed a cool project but a lot of work...
You could look at the Loewe connect UHD, 4k and wil built in 5.1 surround, with a cable to connect beolabs.
not sure what they are like, but had good reviews. A friend has swapped over form a BV for the whole house and loves the TV