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Why HDR?
Why HVEC? You are in the UK and I assume you have a Sky or BT box, so you won't need this.
I suppose the question is about being 'futureproof!
HDR is definitely there to stay - or rather to come.
But - since it yet is not clear, which - or if maybe more standarts - should be implemented in a 'futureproof' tv, and since there is very little HDR-enabled content, there won't be any hurry for B&O to upgrade.
An integraded HEVC decoder would be nice, but for time being an external device will do the job.
There are no tv-tuners with HEVC decoders yet - and no tv networks using HEVC for encoding.
A lot of people will need an external box anyway, since HEVC encoded 4K material probably will be a 'pay for' service. Don't expect HEVC-encoded freeview to come soon.
If and when there will be a Avant MK2 is pure guessing.
My own 'guess' is, that we will see a new BV rather than a MK2 version of the Avant.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Bv7Mk3:What about the internal browsing on the internet? If some sites go Hevec? Or utube? Ect.
Youtube does not use HEVC, they have their own VP9 encoder.
I guess B&O won't make a MK2 version of the Avant just to support VP9.
it will probably have to wait, untill a new tv engine is ready.
Again - use external boxes for that.
The industry will always push new devices and technologies.
Would be nice (for them), if the costumer would buy a new tv every year.
It isn't (unfortunately).
the panel/the tv must be able to support, what the external box can send.
If you want to benefit from the new technologies, that soon will improve the picture quality, you will need a tv, that supports these.
It is not just about boxes, that you swap, when a new one arrives.
Please do tell those of us, who are not located in the UK, which 'standards the Sky box will determine'.
Millemissen:It isn't (unfortunately). the panel/the tv must be able to support, what the external box can send. If you want to benefit from the new technologies, that soon will improve the picture quality, you will need a tv, that supports these. It is not just about boxes, that you swap, when a new one arrives. Please do tell those of us, who are not located in the UK, which 'standards the Sky box will determine'. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
mawheele:The new box is called SkyQ and was in news on the front page of this mornings Telegraph. The current platform is circa 14 years old with the only upgrade having been HD and 3D.
Unfortunately you can't (at least I could not) find any specs for that box.
You can read a lot about the 'features' - they even included support for Netflix.
But It would nice to know, which codecs is used for the tv broadcasts, bitrate etc - and I'd like to know, if there is support for HDR, WCG, version of the HDMI output etc..... Just to know how 'futureproof' this box is.
My question about 'which standarts the Sky box will determine' remain unanswered.
One thing is for sure - it will be a 'money machine' for the Sky company!!!
And don't forget - you'll have to subscribe for a fast internet connection as well ;-)
Nice article on the subject from early june this year:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sky-4k-tv-early-adopters-wont-be-able-watch-sports-broadcast-uhd-1504433
Millemissen: It isn't (unfortunately). the panel/the tv must be able to support, what the external box can send. If you want to benefit from the new technologies, that soon will improve the picture quality, you will need a tv, that supports these. It is not just about boxes, that you swap, when a new one arrives. Please do tell those of us, who are not located in the UK, which 'standards the Sky box will determine'. MM
I think we are partially saying the same thing, but ultimately I also think I disagree. The TV makers are at the bottom of the supply chain which is why their profits are the most slim. Therefore, technologies like 8k and other formats are actually very easy for them to bring to market today, let alone next year. However, they will get no take-up. Who is going to provide the majority of households with standard bandwidth of 180MBps? We're going to need 40MBps to get UHD and thats already a huge headache.
My advise to those worried about making the best buying decision is focus on the content and delivery part of the technology chain - not what the TV makers are doing. B&O has zero need to bring out an Avant MkII in the next two years because it does everything it needs to. Of course, they can improve the panels for greater performance, lower energy consumption and higher contrast, but in terms of the ability to play future content, its a safe bet for the next 5-7 years.
The SkyQ box is an important industry milestone as they have a very significant share of the European market in UK, Germany and Italy. The UK box is rumoured to be based on the new system in Australia. Its got potential for critical mass. Sky will be aiming for mass adoption and therefore whilst I am unaware of the precise specs, I would bet that they will support TVs that are shipping today. And then we will have this platform for the next several years before they switch from satellite to IPTV.
It seems to me that SKY is pushing this box now to have a bite of the 'Premier League' cake - not letting BT dine alone.
There is a lot of money involved in sports events on tv.
From a technological/consumer point of view it maybe would have been better to wait untill next year.