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I just replaced my Beo4 with a brand new BeoRemote One.
I'm really satisfied with the change, it looks and feels more modern, and even with its flat buttons, it can be used in darkness (and the OLED screen is a pleasure to find LIST buttons in the dark).
I'm using it with a Beovision 8, and a Beosound 5 Encore, which is "linked" to the TV with a Beolink Converter 1611.Here is the quite new thing : in the past, when I was using "CD" button on Beo4, the TV turned on in audio mode, and the Beosound Encore too, and there was only the "double volume control" that was a small problem as both TV and Beosound volumes were controlled together.
This is not the case anymore with the BeoRemote One : there is a "Beo4 Video" and a "Beo4 Audio" mode. If I click CD on Beo4 Video mode, the Tv will turn on to the Audio source, but the Beosound stays off. If I select CD on "Beo4 Audio" mode, I control everything like before.
Isn't it a bit strange ? When using the Beo6, I never knew I could have 2 modes. This could resolve the "double volume control" if we could send only "video mode" commands with Beo6 volume wheel...By switching between both modes, I can do strange things that I couldn't do before, like having the Beovision show a specific channel, but with the sound of the Beosound playing...
A thing I would like to be able to do is to automatically turn the BeoRemote in "Beo4 video" when using the TV button, and to automatically turn the Beoremote in "Beo4 audio" when using the Music button : is that possible ?
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Interesting find!I would like to know if this audio-volume and video-volume option is availabe for Beo 5 and Beo 6, too!?
mbee: in the past, when I was using "CD" button on Beo4, the TV turned on in audio mode, and the Beosound Encore too, and there was only the "double volume control" that was a small problem as both TV and Beosound volumes were controlled together.
in the past, when I was using "CD" button on Beo4, the TV turned on in audio mode, and the Beosound Encore too, and there was only the "double volume control" that was a small problem as both TV and Beosound volumes were controlled together.
This sounds as if you had the wrong 'Option' settings for the TV and Beosound. Linked products in the same room need to be 'told' what they share the room with, in order to avoid the double volume control problem that you have had. From memory, the TV should have been in 'V.Opt 1' and the Beosound in 'AOpt 1'.
You shouldn't use the Beoremote in "audio mode" or "video mode" if there isn't a specific reason for it.
Just use it is straight Beo4 mode.
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@Guy : that's not a problem of "wrong option" I think : as my Beosound 5 Encore up is l"inked" without being a linkable product, it's what I would call a non-standard setup.
@Phil : I can't see any "full Beo4" mode in the user guide... Only Beo4 Video, Beo4 Audio and Beo4 AV products that have to be added in the setup.
@Raeuber : it seems to be that, but with the "Beo4 All" function missing.
Would have been nice if I could have set the Beo6 with different "beo4 mode" for some buttons to avoid the famous double volume command...
mbee: @Guy : that's not a problem of "wrong option" I think : as my Beosound 5 Encore up is l"inked" without being a linkable product, it's what I would call a non-standard setup.
I understand - misread your post!
However, if the TV was put in V.Opt.1, it shouldn't respond to the initial 'CD' command from the Beo4, or indeed any audio command. Couldn't you then press 'CD' (to turn on just the Encore) followed by 'AV' then 'CD' to get the sound through the TV with just the single volume control. Mind you, you have probably tried this!
mbee: @Phil : I can't see any "full Beo4" mode in the user guide... Only Beo4 Video, Beo4 Audio and Beo4 Link products that have to be added in the setup. @Raeuber : it seems to be that, but with the "Beo4 All" function missing.
@Raeuber, that's it : I tried Beo4 AV and Beo4 TV, but didn't found that Beo4 AV was working for everything...
Thanks !
And now : has anyone an idea about combining those 2 modes in a Beo6 config ? That would be interesting...
It`s not really a new behaviour. Most Beolink- and Beo4/5/6 buttons work in audio- or videomode.
Even the "old" BL1000/5000/7000 do that. That`s why you can control a video source in a 1/1 AV setup without disturbing the audio source in the same room and vice versa...
If you press CD, the remote will send a source command in audiomode, if you press TV it`s a video command - simple.
If you have your BV8 in V.OPT2 it will respond to audio- AND videocommands. BS5 Encore is set to A.OPT1, I guess (?).
That`s why both products (BS5 encore and BV8) respond to "CD". Now your remote (Beo4) will send volume commands in audiomode, which will be also received by the two systems -> double commands. I think your BS5 Encore is only linked audiowise to the BV. ..(?)
Guy is completely right: Set your setup to A.OPT1 and V.OPT1 and the volume double commands will be gone.
That`s what the BR One does in Beo4 TV mode (V.OPT) and Beo4 AV mode (V.OPT2 / A.OPT2) and what for example a BC6000 does with A/V volume wheel since years.
I have no BR one, so I can`t test that, but I think, it`s the way it works...
You can program a Beo5/6 for your "special" setup:
In CD mode create a macro that will also send CD in videomade (TV) . This should activate your BV8 and open the port to the BL converter.
Set the volume wheel to videomode (TV). All other functions like numbers, arrows, color buttons... set to audio mode. Press Stdby system to shut down the system. In TV (video) mode all buttons should send in video mode.
Important: BS5 Encore - A.OPT 1 - BV8 V.OPT 1.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks Stephan, this not-so-new behavior is very clear now.
But for the Beo6 config, I can't remember of anything allowing me to send volume in video mode...
Last question : could I even go further by adding a Beosound Essence to this setup and remote-controlling everything?
The idea is that I want to keep the BS5E as I really like to listen to MOTS, but would like to add the multiroom capability to my setup (playing MOTS playlists in other rooms, or simply make the music following me.
My idea is to connect the Beosound Essence mkII to the BV8 with the old Blink converter 1611. I would connect the BS5E to the AUX input of the BS Essence.
BS Essence would be in fixed line volume mode, and would have the IR receiver.
By choosing CD, the BS5E and BV8 would turn on, as today, and if I'm correct, the BS Essence would switch to the AUX input as there is an auto detection. (Of course it will work if the BS Essence can be setup to not react to CD). This should allow me to "distribute" the BS5E sound through NL to other BSEssence...
Same when I choose Radio. If BS Essence IR can not be set like this, I think that I can set the BS5E to react to N.Radio and N.Music (must verify that).
If anyone has any idea if this could work, I'll be pleased to know!
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Yes, as it's the same price, I prefer investing in another Essence than an NL/ML converter, or keeping my 675€ to invest a bit more in the next NL TV that will replace the BV8... For me, buying a ML component is investing in tech of the past ;-)
mbee: But for the Beo6 config, I can't remember of anything allowing me to send volume in video mode...
Actually there are two ways to do this:
On the receiving end you will find "Set product option" on the "Choose products" window, when you right click(?) on the product.
Here you can change the option setting for the selected device.
On the transmitting side you will find a function for "TV" and "RADIO", which is the same as I called "video" and "audio".
Select the Edit window - press TV on the Beo5/6 (for example) - right click the wheel - properties - IR - now you find a line with Line/Format/Address...
Under Address there is TV (selected) RADIO, VTR, ALL, LIGHT....Here you can choose if the button should send in audio(RADIO)mode, or video(TV)mode.
mbee: Last question : could I even go further by adding a Beosound Essence to this setup and remote-controlling everything? The idea is that I want to keep the BS5E as I really like to listen to MOTS, but would like to add the multiroom capability to my setup (playing MOTS playlists in other rooms, or simply make the music following me. My idea is to connect the Beosound Essence mkII to the BV8 with the old Blink converter 1611. I would connect the BS5E to the AUX input of the BS Essence. BS Essence would be in fixed line volume mode, and would have the IR receiver. By choosing CD, the BS5E and BV8 would turn on, as today, and if I'm correct, the BS Essence would switch to the AUX input as there is an auto detection. (Of course it will work if the BS Essence can be setup to not react to CD). This should allow me to "distribute" the BS5E sound through NL to other BSEssence... Same when I choose Radio. If BS Essence IR can not be set like this, I think that I can set the BS5E to react to N.Radio and N.Music (must verify that). If anyone has any idea if this could work, I'll be pleased to know!
Why not?! Should work , a bit complicated with a long signal chain (BS5->Essence->BV8->BL/or ML->linkroom...), my experience is that usually a longer signal chain will not produce a better sound...:( BTW the double commands will still be there... But check it out.
Another option would be to use a Lintronic box connected to BL converter including Datalink to control your BS%E via ML through your BV8 and from linkrooms (an Essence could be connected in parallel (right word in english?) to the BS5E just for distributing via NL.
Or connect your BS5E via Scart-adapter to your BV8 and use my "old" scart solution with a Lintronic box.
You will find a lot of info on the lintronic.dk site. There is a new box called 403..(?) or whatever that is cheaper, does the same and even adds RF capabilities. I have bought it some months ago, and it`s great.
Hope this helps
mbee: Yes, as it's the same price, I prefer investing in another Essence than an NL/ML converter, or keeping my 675€ to invest a bit more in the next NL TV that will replace the BV8.
Yes, as it's the same price, I prefer investing in another Essence than an NL/ML converter, or keeping my 675€ to invest a bit more in the next NL TV that will replace the BV8.
Is it really that much?!...
mbee: ... For me, buying a ML component is investing in tech of the past ;-)
... For me, buying a ML component is investing in tech of the past ;-)
Maybe ML is tech of the past - but it`s well working tech...
and there are still many households with MCL systems....