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AST - do you use it and how?

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Millemissen
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Millemissen Posted: Sun, Jan 24 2016 9:32 AM

Owners of the e.g. 'newer' BV7 versions (with external speakers connected) surely will have noticed the Adaptive Sound Technology possibility of their tv's.

However, how many of these use this/have used this for their daily listening?

Would be nice to hear, how much this function has been/still is used and what you think of it.

User cases welcome.

MM

 

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N.B. I know there were some threads about this before.

But it would be nice to hear about possible '2016 experiences'.

MM

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olvisab replied on Sun, Jan 24 2016 10:37 AM

Hi MM,

I am often frustrated by the low sound level coming from my rear speakers which are far from'my couch.

I often use the AST. This way they are more used.

I add a big issue with the beolab 1 at rear, the bass level produces by the AST nearly blows the woofer at reasonable level,

I have beolab 5 at fronts and I have the impression that the AST considers that it can send the same level of bass to any speaker in the setup.

I have made a test with a beoplay s8 and I don't have this issue because the sub is able to deal with this.

I spoke with Geoff about this issue and he doesn't understand why the woofer wasn't protected. He was unfortunately not able to test the same setup.

 

 

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Thanks olvisab.

Maybe I should have added - does anyone, who has moved on to a BSys4-based setup, miss this feature?

MM

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beojeff replied on Sun, Jan 24 2016 11:54 PM

I do with that B&O would focus more on keeping up with industry standards such as Dolby Atmos rather than trying to reinvent the wheel with proprietary experiments.

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beojeff:

I do with that B&O would focus more on keeping up with industry standards such as Dolby Atmos rather than trying to reinvent the wheel with proprietary experiments.

Now - AST was a feature, that was offered for BSys3-based setups from 2010 ->.

At that time no one (well a couple of engineers did) knew of Atmos and the other immersive audio formats.

AST was not implemented in the BSys4-engine.

Your comment surely is legal (and maybe even relevant), but it doesn't provide anything to answer my original question.

i just wanted to find out, whether it was (maybe still is) used by those, who have these setups - and how.

The current TrueImage technology is an upmixing algorithm:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2013/12/06/bo-tech-trueimage-upmixing/

It is not a decoder for (one or more of the new) immersive sound formats!

And who knows - maybe they are working in Struer on implementing the Atmos etc decoders in the tv's right now!

MM

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AST transformed into what is now known as speaker groups. It didn't go away, it was just updated to be easier and more efficient for the customer to use. If someone updated they basically have the same feature they once had. :)

 

Also, people forget that when the BeoSystem 4 launched Atmos wasn't even rolled out. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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This is how Geoff Martin described it in an older thread:

'The AST algorithm is not included in the the BeoSystem 4  (or BeoPlay V1, BeoVisions 11 and Avant). However, these products all allow for you to create up to 9 different "Speaker Groups", each of which can have it own:

  • listening position (i.e. Speaker Level and Speaker Distance)
  • Loudspeaker constellation (e.g. which loudspeakers are on and which are off)
  • audio channel -> loudspeaker assignment
  • name

 Once these have been created for your listening positions and/or requirements (i.e. 2.0 vs. 5.1 listening in the same listening position) then you can switch between Speaker Groups in a number of different ways on different remotes.'

Imo - a much more flexible way of dealing with your connected speakers.

MM

 

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