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Thanks to Steve Devonshire for finally making this a real prospect
Bang & Olufsen, Beovision Harmony (VIP PRE LAUNCH + EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH STEVE DEVONSHIRE) - YouTube
Thanks for sharing it here.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
And it'll look great too
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Well, now we need to wait for September 6th and day 1 of IFA Berlin. ;)
Mikipidia: And it'll look great too
Not knowing how it looks (or for that matter how it works).
But I assume that STBBrackets could (?) come up with some decent solutions for a proper combination with the LG tv’s, different stands etc.
of course they could do that and probably already have
and if you watched the interview it'll(the remote) work via software. So most likely the same app as for the harmony.
Mikipidia: it'll(the remote) work via software. So most likely the same app as for the harmony.
it'll(the remote) work via software. So most likely the same app as for the harmony.
Sure - it must be.
That - actually - was one of the things, that I thought that John could have talked about in his Harmony video.
But that is/was probably too early.
I made this point at the time of the Harmony release - I believe all LG OLED's this year (at least C series and higher) will have the software and be able to talk to a BR One.
David :Thanks to Steve Devonshire for finally making this a real prospect Bang & Olufsen, Beovision Harmony (VIP PRE LAUNCH + EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH STEVE DEVONSHIRE) - YouTube
I am. Ot so sure it was meant to be talked about yet - or maybe it is just a teaser.
The dealers - at least some of them - seem to know about it....or something about it.
I don’t expect any more details untill september ——- or if a dealer somewhere hints something.
If this product (together with an LG-tv) however, will serve those who are used to a BV, is a great question.
It’s about PUC and HDMI ports, about PL connections, about sound engine/up and downmixing, about 3.0 or 2.0 configuration etc.....
I can rarely think that it won’t be NL compatible (just like any other recent audio product from B&O).
I can’t imagine B&O making any stand option for the package - but STBBracket might!
However, I am sure that it won’t come cheap!
So, I am impatient waiting for more details - just like you.
I'm guessing Steve is just giving us a teaser.
I have no idea what it will look like either but my guess is it will look amazing and I already know I want one. Maybe B&O will go with some pre launch information like with the Harmony. That approach appears to have generated a great deal of interest and many have already ordered.
Come on B&O. The more you can tell us now, the more you can fill up those order books.
Don’t forget - it is summer vacation time now.....you won’t hear much from Struer untill after that.
It looks great imo, people have seen the leaks that got pulled.
I was told no on PUC and a no on PL, but a yes on NL. I took it as a more stand alone product.
Also I was told it'll be priced competitively, for a high end soundbar, and will sound amazing compared and I believe it and it's not just marketing speak. I think it'll hit a lot of USP's we all want and maybe more. I am very excited for it
Sandyb:Indeed, I was told pretty much the same I.e. a standalone product. Anyone expecting a fully fledged Beosystem 5 type center channel will have to wait until next year. With respect to this sound bar, with no PUC, I wonder what the (remote) control choice will be.
With respect to this sound bar, with no PUC, I wonder what the (remote) control choice will be.
Will be a shame if I cant use it as a centre channel for my other Beolab's. I would have expected B&O to produce a product that would give them the possibility to upsell more speakers. I guess I will just have to keep waiting if this is true.
Let's see how it pans out.
Again, from what I was told the sound bar product is relatively simple, as perhaps evidenced by the absence of PUC / PL. Whether it will be WISA capable, who knows, perhaps. Despite being simple, it will still have an audience - after all, there are a few who use a BS 35/3500 as a sound bar with TV's, with the facility to also act as a multi room speaker (hence the inclusion of NL). And it may be trying to compete more with the higher end sound bar market, where many can wirelessly connect to a sub to boost the performance and add some flexibility i.e. aimed just as much towards those with no other B&O home architecture.
The other part of what I was told was that a sound centre a la Eclipse, effectively a Beosystem 5 *** centre speaker will come, but not till next year.
There will also be a new remote, which is potentially very attractive, being an enlarged Essence remote form factor, with a screen in the middle...hopefully that really does see the light of day later this year. As compared to the current BR One, it may well be more friendly to selecting / browsing music.
Anyway, lets see, there's always a certain fluidity to these things.
Just a better soundbar, then ;-(
Sandyb: The other part of what I was told was that a sound centre a la Eclipse, effectively a Beosystem 5 *** centre speaker will come, but not till next year.
Worth waiting for, then ;-)
Millemissen:Worth waiting for, then ;-) MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
I guess many (and that is just a few, when you consider the target group of B&O) have been waiting for something WITHOUT a buit-in center speaker.
Millemissen:I guess many (and that is just a few, when you consider the target group of B&O) have been waiting for something WITHOUT a built-in center speaker. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Millemissen: I guess many (and that is just a few, when you consider the target group of B&O) have been waiting for something WITHOUT a buit-in center speaker. MM
Sandyb:It’s likely to be close to the equivalent of the Eclipse sound centre, I.e a centre speaker with all the connections etc. The upcoming sound bar is a simple product, like many other sound bars. You’ll have to wait quite a while for the thing you are looking for
1500 sounds a bit "low" compared to what they are charging for a BeoSound 1. If this is supposed to emulate surround sound my guess is that it will come with more than 2 speakers (which is what the BS1 has).
Anyway, what I would really want B&O to launch is that new "BeoSystem 5"
Styrizo:1500 sounds a bit "low" compared to what they are charging for a BeoSound 1. If this is supposed to emulate surround sound my guess is that it will come with more than 2 speakers (which is what the BS1 has). Anyway, what I would really want B&O to launch is that new "BeoSystem 5"
... as to Beosystem 5 rumors.
The predecessors were all combined Audio/Video processors, but unfortunately I doubt there isn't any competence left to implement any video functionality, like something as simple like a TV tuner.
But since most audio today is carried through an HDMI interface a Beosys 5 needs an HDMI matrix, a SOC to extract the audio and the appropriate codecs witch undoubtedly will be reflected on the price tag
Or the Beosys 5 could simply be a revamp of the Core, i.e a simple digital audio switch.
Whats you take ?
David : Will be a shame if I cant use it as a centre channel for my other Beolab's. I would have expected B&O to produce a product that would give them the possibility to upsell more speakers. I guess I will just have to keep waiting if this is true.
EXACTLY.. If I would buy a B&O soundbar then I would expect it to behave as a center speaker in a surround setup.
Karel.
BEOVOX141: ... as to Beosystem 5 rumors. The predecessors were all combined Audio/Video processors, but unfortunately I doubt there isn't any competence left to implement any video functionality, like something as simple like a TV tuner. But since most audio today is carried through an HDMI interface a Beosys 5 needs an HDMI matrix, a SOC to extract the audio and the appropriate codecs witch undoubtedly will be reflected on the price tag Or the Beosys 5 could simply be a revamp of the Core, i.e a simple digital audio switch. Whats you take ?
They never had an HDMI matrix before, so I really doubt there is any energy to be last and most expensive in that market.
I look forward to seeing a beoplay type soundbar that competes. I hope they are capable of building on the current tech to offer Beosystem-whatever with or without a speaker. It could help the classic brand. If not, there is always Peter Pan.
Thanks for the link to the YT video
However, i never heard him mention a B&O soundbar, only about the BeoVision harmony and that in time they can do a software update if you change your screen.
Did i miss another video?
Thanks
M
Aussie Michael: Thanks for the link to the YT video However, i never heard him mention a B&O soundbar, only about the BeoVision harmony and that in time they can do a software update if you change your screen. Did i miss another video? Thanks M
There's a moment where he says that B&O is going to release a new product where he can't go into details yet which allows the customer to change the screen... Have a look/listen to it again :-)
When people talk about a ‘BeoSystem 5’, I am sure most of them don’t think of any video processing.
It should be clear that - since the cooperation with LG - there is no need for tuners and video processing in a ‘BeoSystem 5’/a remake of the old boxed concept (if there should ever be such a device).
Why waste time ‘discussing’ tv tuner or video processing - yes or no!
How the ‘BeoSystem’ works in the BV Eclipse is clearly described here:
https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/09/15/bo-tech-its-not-just-a-soundbar/
I guess the BeoSystem in the BV Harmony will be very similar.
What I see as a future possibility is an updated version of this.....as a standalone device (for an LG-tv of your own choice).
The only ‘’update’ needed would be a more modern HDMI chipset and a new form factor.
If there ever should be a new BeoSystem’ (in a box), I guess it would be something similar to what is described in the linked article......only without the built-in 3.0 speaker part (but with appropriate PL outputs instead).
However, what now seems to be announced is something different, something much sleaker.
Whether that will be of any use for us (read: those who write/read this thread) or not is a big question.
Maybe something for a second tv - something for a linked room, where you won’t need a fully fletched ‘BeoSystem’.....or something for new costumers, who want ‘better sound’.
Millemissen: It should be clear that - since the cooperation with LG - there is no need for tuners and video processing in a ‘BeoSystem 5’/a remake of the old boxed concept (if there should ever be such a device). Why waste time ‘discussing’ tv tuner or video processing - yes or no!
That is not clear at all, why would you deliberately exclude 85% of the TV market. I.e all the rest of the manufactures?
I would love to get the B&O experience in "a box" that has everything and simply connects to any display technology using a single cable!
Besides Geoff is not really explaining anything, he just stating the obvious. The video switch, the audio extraction and decoding capabilities are completely left out.
poodleboy:They never had an HDMI matrix before, so I really doubt there is any energy to be last and most expensive in that market.
Although i should properly have written "switch" the Beosystem3 is actually a 4*2 HDMI matrix!
So annoying, the board keeps publishing my replies twice! Ignore. See below.
BEOVOX141: Millemissen: It should be clear that - since the cooperation with LG - there is no need for tuners and video processing in a ‘BeoSystem 5’/a remake of the old boxed concept (if there should ever be such a device). Why waste time ‘discussing’ tv tuner or video processing - yes or no! That is not clear at all, why would you deliberately exclude 85% of the TV market. I.e all the rest of the manufactures?
B&O cleared most of their video processing developers a few years ago and made it clear they'd move on from this market. We are not getting a BeoSystem 5 with video processing nor do we need one - Millemissen is very right in this regard. This is now LG's department. B&O is focussed on audio and integration.
moxxey:B&O cleared most of their video processing developers a few years ago and made it clear they'd move on from this market. We are not getting a BeoSystem 5 with video processing nor do we need one - Millemissen is very right in this regard. This is now LG's department. B&O is focussed on audio and integration.
How do you think the HDMI signals are switched if not in a video (HDMI) switch? You already paying for the SOCs why not use them to the full extend?
BEOVOX141: That is not clear at all, why would you deliberately exclude 85% of the TV market. I.e all the rest of the manufactures?
I don't follow that reasoning... Currently almost all screens have excellent videoprocessing onboard. Why would you reinvent the wheel only to come to the conclusion that your wheel is also round.
There was a time that B&O was clearly ahead in video processing when screens were "dumb" and didn't have (good) video processing.
The market has moved on and B&O made a good decision to no longer pour money in a black hole when LG's video R&D vastly exceeds B&O's capabilities.
BEOVOX141: poodleboy:They never had an HDMI matrix before, so I really doubt there is any energy to be last and most expensive in that market. Although i should properly have written "switch" the Beosystem3 is actually a 4*2 HDMI matrix!
If you want to be right, so be it. But it is misleading to refer to the BS3 as HDMI matrix.