NL converter/Essence question

I have three rooms connected by Masterlink, two with Beovisions and one with an active kit.

In a fourth room I have an Essence with speakers connected to it.

Fifth room is a V1 and speakers.

Within the Masterlink system I have a Beosound 3000 and Beosound 5 for audio. Also a Sonos connected to the aux in of the 3000.

I am considering a second Essence to replace the Sonos, and connecting to the aux in. Then I started thinking of a NL converter to connect the Essence to the Masterlink system instead of using the aux in.

Then I had a thought, if I get a NL Converter and connect it to the Masterlink system, would I need a second Essence? Or would the converter connect wirelessly to my current Essence and distribute the sound from it through the Masterlink system?

I have read many threads previously on the converter and still do not understand it so sorry if this question has been answered before.

Thanks!

The Essence will not connect wirelessly to the Converter - it will connect wirelessly to your router (I suppose this is access point as well) and the Converter must be hardwired to the router.

What you can do on the ML side respectively on the NL side depends on how the converter/the setup is configured.

Whether you will benefit from this or not, depends on your wishes for distributed sound (to any/every room).

Please note, that you won't be able to distribute AirPlay or Spotify Connect on the NL-network (due to restrictions) from an Essence - TuneIN, Deezer and line-in connected devices work well.

 

But if you connect an Essence to the BS3000/Aux-in, you can distribute everything, that the Essence can, to the ML-network - because it is just a Aux-source there. However, you will have to manage all controls (except volume control) from the Beomusic app.

At the same time you can distribute the TuneIN/netradio and what is connected to the line-in of the Essence to the V1 (as you already can from your existing Essence).

(Why not just keep the Sonos connected to the BS300?)

 

In other words - it depends on your wishes, what you should do.

Remember - for a complete integration of your ML and NL devices you will always need the Converter in the setup!

If you want to distrute both the BS3000 and the BS5 on the NL-network, you will need two converter ---- which would make your setup rather complex ;-)

Thanks!

The converter would be hard wired to the router as you mention. Would the converter then be able to play music from the Essence and feed it to the ML system?

The only reason not to leave the Sonos connected, is the Beovirus is striking and I want a new B and O  toy LOL

 

 

 

 

yes, razlaw. i, for example, putted TuneIn on the TV-button of the Beo4 and it works well in my setup to feed the Beolab 2000 in the bath and my passive kit in the study. but i can't for example play cd in the study AND TuneIn in the bathroom

egges:

TuneIn on the TV-button of the Beo4 and it works well in my setup to feed the Beolab 2000 in the bath and my passive kit in the study. but i can't for example play cd in the study AND TuneIn in the bathroom

I think that restriction is because ML only carried one source signal: CD or TuneIn but not both.

Or is the CD attached to the passive kit ???

i don't have full transparency about your system, but suggest you explore bringing your ML devices into the NL world instead of the NL to ML.

this will allow you to distribute more than one source and also to at later stage add more NL devices such as the BS2 (which happens to have an aux-in as well).

steve1977:

i don't have full transparency about your system, but suggest you explore bringing your ML devices into the NL world instead of the NL to ML.

this will allow you to distribute more than one source and also to at later stage add more NL devices such as the BS2 (which happens to have an aux-in as well).

I thought that is what the NL converter did? Bring the the ML devices into the NL world?

Razlaw:

I thought that is what the NL converter did? Bring the the ML devices into the NL world?

It does.

And vice versa.

However the ML side still can only have a single source.

Some devices can play one local source and "broadcast" another to the ML: the BeoSound 4 is one of these rare machines.

Thanks for the clarification!

elephant:

It does.

And vice versa.

However the ML side still can only have a single source.

Some devices can play one local source and "broadcast" another to the ML: the BeoSound 4 is one of these rare machines. BeoNut since '75

you can have one ml/nl for each ml devices. so rather than combining ml with nl, you actually make individual ml devices nl capable. am i making any sense?

steve1977:

you can have one ml/nl for each ml devices. so rather than combining ml with nl, you actually make individual ml devices nl capable. am i making any sense?

Yes !

So at the expense of multiple NL/ML Converters (one per each node in the network where there is a key source) you can have multiple old sources enabled as NL sources that can join in with distributing music.

Correct ?

elephant:

 

So at the expense of multiple NL/ML Converters (one per each node in the network where there is a key source) you can have multiple old sources enabled as NL sources that can join in with distributing music.

 

Correct ?

You only need multiple NL/ML converters if you want the ability to play different ML sources in your NL simultaneously, or perhaps if the ML devices are not all connected via ML.  I have one NL/ML converter, and it gives my Essence access to any of my ML sources, but only one at a time.

i'm not sure, but i also takes several ml/nl if i have two ml devices with speakers connected to them? the beomusic app only shows the ml/no as one destination to stream to? i may be wrong though?

2* ML/NL converters; 1* BS9000; 1* BS3000

NO additional ML

I guess I understand the point of confusion.  

I have a BS5 (no speakers), BS9000, BV8, BL3500, BLC and Essence.

With my Essence + BLC, I can access the same ML sources as my BL3500 (TV, Radio, N.Radio, N.Music, A.Aux, CD).  I can't listen to any NL on my ML because all the possible ML sources are already on used (V.Master = BV8, A.Master = BS9000 and Source Center = BS5)

If I had another room with a ML source, I would need another BLC to integrate that into my NL (I think).

Stan