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The oleds tv's are coming later this year,
any rumours about other products?
koning:The oleds tv's are coming later this year, any rumours about other products?
We already know that Beolit 17 and Beoplay P2 are coming.
benoit: We already know that Beolit 17 and Beoplay P2 are coming.
And a mini version of the BeoLab 90 to replace the BeoLab 5's.
I really don't think we'll see the OLED TVs for quite a while, due to the current issues with the BV14 and Horizon. And, even when we do, they'll be expensive. Think about the cost of the Avant 75, for example! Any B&O OLED TV has to sit above this, price-wise.
My dealer said the new oled tv should have a price reduction of about 30% against avant. And a new speaker with beolab 90 technology coming in at 50% above beolab 5.
Beovision 7-55 MK1 red, Beolab 10 red. Beolab 50, all black. Beolab 17 broken ice. Beolab transmitter. Apple tv4 and apple express 2.
The OLED-BV's are assumed to be based on the E-series from LG.
These come in 55 and in 65" - none above, as far as I know.
Probably the current (or some of them) BV's and the new OLED-BV's will coexist for a while.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Esax:My dealer said the new oled tv should have a price reduction of about 30% against avant. And a new speaker with beolab 90 technology coming in at 50% above beolab 5.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Still hope for me yet buying another Bv TV
Lower price, that's absolutely not realistic.
4 beolab 5, beolab 9, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 6002, beolab 3500, beovision 7 55 mk2, 2 beovision 11 46 mk4, beotime, beosound ouverture, beosound essence, beoplay A8, beomaster 900 RG de luxe and the collection continues...
Bv7Mk3: Still hope for me yet buying another Bv TV
Me too perhaps?
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
30% until they do their annual price rises anyway lol
Sometimes price rises are more often than annually
Any rumours of when the BS1 and BS2 will come in a variety of different colours?
Chris Townsend: My dealer said the new oled tv should have a price reduction of about 30% against avant. And a new speaker with beolab 90 technology coming in at 50% above beolab 5.
30% is still a lot Chris. The Avant 75 is something like £15,000!
Aussie Michael: Any rumours of when the BS1 and BS2 will come in a variety of different colours?
The BS2 isn't even out in the brass yet Michael :)
No new beosounds??
They just launched two!
moxxey:30% is still a lot Chris. The Avant 75 is something like £15,000!
Chris Townsend:[Not sure he was talking about the big screens to be honest. We are moving in may/June time to slightly smaller house, so HMS 7-55 would look out of place.
I'm not sure it's worth having OLED in less than a 55"? Even my BV11-40 in SD looks as good (in SD) as my BV12-65 does showing HD. You don't really need OLED if you wanted, say, a 40" panel. Just overkill.
Besides, I don't see OLED TVs smaller than 55" (http://www.lg.com/uk/oled-tvs)? The are all 55/65/75. If the TVs don't exist, B&O can't make them. With that in mind, any OLED B&O is going to compete more against the Avant than the Horizon.
yes definitely new speakers to replace the BL5....think they're called the BL45s....uses some of the same technology as in the BL90,supposed to be around 30K.......apparently also some enhancements to the multi-room functionality, ability to set more complex scenarios, for example the ability to set the TV and sound system to come on and off and programmed times / intervals.....what i was told anyway, dont shoot the messenger......
i think a key factor will also be the upscaling.....much as the LG's were very well reviewed, from looking at regular SD and HD content on the E6, the high end Sony's and Panasonic's did a slightly better job in that regard......awesome with 4K/HDR of course......
Sandyb: yes definitely new speakers to replace the BL5....think they're called the BL45s....uses some of the same technology as in the BL90,supposed to be around 30K.......apparently also some enhancements to the multi-room functionality, ability to set more complex scenarios, for example the ability to set the TV and sound system to come on and off and programmed times / intervals.....what i was told anyway, dont shoot the messenger......
I'd be really surprised if they did this. I mean, allegedly, the BL5s sold but not in huge numbers. Making something in the GBP20-30k and more costly than the BL5's......... It is a very competitive market.
So while the rest of you speculate on the technicals of LG OLEDS which will be enabled on a new Beovision (but not HDR1.1 or 1.3 and thus immediately useless and out of date whereas Argos is doing the latest hottest tech at GBP299), I'll have a punt and suggest that if there is a BL90 trickle-down product, I'll bet it looks something like this......
Mr 10Percent: So while the rest of you speculate on the technicals of LG OLEDS which will be enabled on a new Beovision (but not HDR1.1 or 1.3 and thus immediately useless
So while the rest of you speculate on the technicals of LG OLEDS which will be enabled on a new Beovision (but not HDR1.1 or 1.3 and thus immediately useless
I disagree with this. I think we'll see a change with these OLED TVs. They are going to be much more "LG" than we realise, I think. They'll use a lot of their technology and B&O will focus on improving the picture processing and sound system, plus a unique case. But the innards, software/OS and connections will be all LG and whatever LG supports.
I think B&O learned a lesson with the Horizon and BV14. They won't make the same mistake with these LG-partnered OLED TVs.
moxxey:I disagree with this. I think we'll see a change with these OLED TVs. They are going to be much more "LG" than we realise, I think. They'll use a lot of their technology and B&O will focus on improving the picture processing and sound system, plus a unique case. But the innards, software/OS and connections will be all LG and whatever LG supports. I think B&O learned a lesson with the Horizon and BV14. They won't make the same mistake with these LG-partnered OLED TVs.
BeoVision Haermony 65"...BeoLab 28 Anthracite....BeoLab 17 as REAR....BV10-32....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....Beosound 1 New York edt....Beogram 4002....Beoplay Emerge....Beoplay M5....Beoplay M3....Beoremote Halo....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H95 Black LTD....H9i Rimowa....6 x H6....Form 1....U70...
Sandyb:Of course no one knows for sure, but an LG OLED panel is generally regarded as better more modern technology than the panel in the BV14......I'm not biased against the 14, I have one and the picture quality has become really good after the software update.....whether the new TVs have a nice design like the 11 /14 we will have to wait and see
But I am talking about the system not the panel. The problem is the platform between B&O and Android.
I dont see why that will be better with LGs platform!?
Yes, very fair point.......though webOS has in general been well reviewed, whereas Android TV, even on other brands (Sony) has always been seen as not mature / buggy........though i expect Android TV to improve...........but yes, there are many aspects to get right (design, audio, picture quality, interface etc), so there's plenty of scope for the very highest expectations to be disappointed......
Sandyb: Yes, very fair point.......though webOS has in general been well reviewed, whereas Android TV, even on other brands (Sony) has always been seen as not mature / buggy........though i expect Android TV to improve...........but yes, there are many aspects to get right (design, audio, picture quality, interface etc), so there's plenty of scope for the very highest expectations to be disappointed......
I am very sure that B&O sorting things out about BV14. It already big improvement and week 10 is the BIG update.
mr_anders_son: I dont see why that will be better with LGs platform!?
I've not seen the issues with LGs platform as we've seen with the BV14. Their platform is reviewed well http://www.trustedreviews.com/lg-webos-2-0-smart-tv-system-review
In the same way the huge ongoing Sky/BV7-40 issues were exclusive to B&O. B&O has major issues with software going back years. However, if they take the LG platform, they won't need to worry about such issues.
Sandyb:Yes, very fair point.......though webOS has in general been well reviewed, whereas Android TV, even on other brands (Sony) has always been seen as not mature / buggy........though i expect Android TV to improve...........but yes, there are many aspects to get right (design, audio, picture quality, interface etc), so there's plenty of scope for the very highest expectations to be disappointed......
oh yes, its definitely a little cartoonish.....i think it has been well reviewed because its smooth and stable, and the reviewers seem to quite like the tabs / cards.....everyone hold your breath for the animated bird character that pops up occasionally.......
Sandyb:oh yes, its definitely a little cartoonish.....i think it has been well reviewed because its smooth and stable, and the reviewers seem to quite like the tabs / cards.....everyone hold your breath for the animated bird character that pops up occasionally.......
To be honest the Android interface is absolutely fine, its just been the instability.....though that does seem to have improved since the software update.......still obviously prefer the old simple UI......
Sandyb:To be honest the Android interface is absolutely fine, its just been the instability.....though that does seem to have improved since the software update.......still obviously prefer the old simple UI......
yes, when you are dealing with the system settings part of the UI, it is much as it was before............i dont have any speakers connected to my BV14 (its in my bedroom), but have played quite a bit with other settings, and its more or less as simple and elegant as it was before, and looks very familiar.......in that regard at least, B&O seem to have made an effort to migrate the same menu structure as on the old system.......i hope they do the same for the LG panel sets later this year, but who knows.....