ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
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BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass
BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black
V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white
BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver
Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway
I know…B&O virus has grown on me !
dont believe so, the Avant will be discontinued when the new OLEDs are launched....
Sandyb: ...the Avant will be discontinued when the new OLEDs are launched....
...the Avant will be discontinued when the new OLEDs are launched....
I am not sure of that - at least not for the first batch of the new tv's.
Although it might be that the 55" will reach EOL first?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
yes, no doubt there will be an overlap.....but the Horizon will continue, Avant i have been told is to be discontinued, which makes perfect sense i guess...
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Wow!
I'm seriously tempted to buy an A9 to get that cover, love it!
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Fansastic:On Dutch ebay (marktplaats) bulksale of Horizon 48" and 40"... hope this is not a prediction for end of live of the Horizon.. That is a main concern for all android based tv owners around here, I asume. Still to much work to be done for making the software bullitproof
That is a main concern for all android based tv owners around here, I asume. Still to much work to be done for making the software bullitproof
I doubt whether this is legitimate business. I definately think not.
No retailer would sell his Horizons this way. Not even when they are planning to close their shop.
And with this amount of boxes on a pallet it looks even more shady.
I would first of all ask for qaurantee, does it come with a remote and ask for serialnumbers.
If it is stolen then the serialnumbers are known and registered.
I would stay far away from this.
Beobuddy:I doubt whether this is legitimate business. I definately think not. No retailer would sell his Horizons this way. Not even when they are planning to close their shop. And with this amount of boxes on a pallet it looks even more shady. I would first of all ask for qaurantee, does it come with a remote and ask for serialnumbers. If it is stolen then the serialnumbers are known and registered. I would stay far away from this.
If these are 'shady', it should be possible for B&O to restrict updates, puc-download etc to them.
What were the asked prices by the way?
Is the seller known?
Millemissen:If these are 'shady', it should be possible for B&O to restrict updates, puc-download etc to them. What were the asked prices by the way? Is the seller known? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
I bet it is not a serious seller but scam. Is there telephone number and a dutch name + surname? If not, beware. Sure the guy now lives abroad and can ship for free after payment with Western Union...
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If I were a (dutch) dealer, I would certainly investigate here.
This is not right!
Correct, it isn't.
Hello,
Well i have tried that with a B&O dealer, but they only thing they are telling is they wll not give any service for the televisions. So still i don't understand the buzz. I have a registered account for some years with marktplaats (dutch ebay) if there was something shady with my advertisement than they would let me know. btw i have checked all the serial numbers on checkmend they were all clear.
Well, since there was stolen a truckload of televisions from Denmark a month ago or so, I would be very careful buying one of these.
The seller should be able to show invoices for where and when they were bought. Looks kind of funny, where are these televisions from ?
/Weebyx
what is checkmend? never heard of this? As mentioned earlier, i assume you will have a sort of invoice from a Bang & Olufsen dealer, so if you have then there is no problem.
And as you are the seller then it's you're responsibility to proof that they are stolen, it's not that the potential buyer has to proof to you that you will sell stolen items? It's the wrong way around i think
the television are not from denmark. origin is poland
In English law and normally used as the general rule where goods are sold by a non-owner then the eventual purchaser does not gain goods title.
This means that if Person 2 wrongly sells goods belonging to Person 1 to a buyer called Person 3, then the goods remain the property of Person 1.
The fact that Person 3 is entirely innocently when he/she purchased goods that he/she believed were owned by Person 2 is irrelevant.
Under English law and I expect it is similar in most EU countries it is the responsibility of the seller to have paperwork that satisfies themselves and others that they are the legal owner of the goods they are selling. If they cannot, then the seller can be arrested for the criminal offence of "Handling Stolen Goods"
Regards Keith....
i know that law and understand thats why i checked the serial number to see if they are not stolen good. I have the reports to proof it.
Wiky: the television are not from denmark. origin is poland
It does not matter where you purchased the goods, but it does matter who you purchased the goods from.
If you have purchased the goods from a VAT registered person or company and you have an invoice from that company, then you are the legal owner. If not, then you are almost certainly not the legal owner.
Wiky: i know that law and understand thats why i checked the serial number to see if they are not stolen good. I have the reports to proof it.
The fact that you have checked the serial numbers does NOT make you the legal owner..
yeah but they are not stolen. and i have an invoices for my purchase.
Do you have an invoice for the goods you are selling from the company or person who sold them to you?
Well, wherever they were bought, there was supposed to be an invoice at the moment of first sales as they were not produced by a private person but rather a VAT registered company. Even if hypothetically B&O sold 20 of them to a private person directly without the dealer involved, there would be this first invoice issued by B&O.
So if there is no invoice to be shown then unfortunately it is difficult to prove they are legit. Not to mention that I can't even think of a potential customer cashing out 2.000 EUR (give and take 500) for a product with no invoice...
Apologies gents - haven't seen your posts as I was typing mine. :/
Anyway: there is supposed to be either a B&O invoice attached or the one from an authorized B&O Dealer. I wouldn't care much for an invoice from John Doe.