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BeoSound Core solo/without the Shape - question

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Millemissen Posted: Wed, Sep 6 2017 5:17 PM

When you read the user guide of the Core it is very 'shapish'.

However, it should be/is possible to use the Core just as with the Essence 2nd gen, or?

Could someone - probably a dealer amongst the Beoworlders - please tell, if the Core can be configured to integrate with a BV, that is use the speakers of the tv?

Is it different as with the Essence, or?

A pity that the user guide does not tell us all!!!

P.S. Maybe someone already has a Core at home - how are your experiences with the device?

MM

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Fl_ip replied on Wed, Sep 6 2017 7:03 PM
Millemissen:

When you read the user guide of the Core it is very 'shapish'.

However, it should be/is possible to use the Core just as with the Essence 2nd gen, or?

Could someone - probably a dealer amongst the Beoworlders - please tell, if the Core can be configured to integrate with a BV, that is use the speakers of the tv?

Is it different as with the Essence, or?

A pity that the user guide does not tell us all!!!

P.S. Maybe someone already has a Core at home - how are your experiences with the device?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

The Core is indeed an upgraded Essence. Works fine in an intergrated setup.
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Thanks ;-)

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The BeoSound Core is indeed replacing the BeoSound Essence Box.

Here is the new web page for the BeoSound Core: http://bang-olufsen.com/core

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Thanks indeed - nothing should hold us back, then ;-))

MM

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jans replied on Thu, Sep 7 2017 2:54 PM
I looked at the support side but did not find anything on setting up a Core integrated with a Beovision. (I.e. Using the Beolabs connected to the Television).

Have I overlooked something?

I am considering to buy a Essence or a Core for integrating it with my BV, so any feedback on this is very much appreciated!

Also, are there any experiences with the Core in terms of stability and potential issues? I am a bit weary to go for a Core Mk 1, based on previous Mk1 experiences which were not so nice.

So, any opinions on this?
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jans:
I looked at the support side but did not find anything on setting up a Core integrated with a Beovision. (I.e. Using the Beolabs connected to the Television).

Have I overlooked something?

I did not either - therefore this thread/question.

According to the answer of petrosbeli above, the setup and ability to integrate with a BV should be like that of the Essence (2nd gen).

And petrosbeli should know - he is in charge of that product.

MM

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beoaus replied on Thu, Sep 7 2017 11:20 PM

Would there be some sort of integration or scenario booklet available for the Core?

If at all possible I would like to know how to integrate the Core with a ML system. Currently I have a Chrome cast audio device connected to the BS9000. Accessible by A.AUX on the Beo4.

I'l like some more functionality and integration thru our various locations.

Thanks, Beoaus

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It's important to note that the integrated experience from a Beosound Core to a BV is with NG platform and older. The newer Eclipse/LG products do not support integrated setups to TV's in the same room (i.e. An audio system will no longer control a tv in the same room.)

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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beoaus replied on Fri, Sep 8 2017 2:39 AM

I have a BS9000 and a BV7 in the same room. If I was to replace the BV7 with an Eclipse, are you saying I will no longer be able to integrate the BS9000 and other equipment I have connected in an ML network? Let alone connect a Core?

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Firstly you don't need a Core with the Eclipse - basicly it has its own Core built-in.

It is - sort of - already integrated!

You should however, be able to integrate another Core with the 'Core functionality' of the Essence, just like you integrate with other NL-products (e.g. an A9...).

And of course you - as before - can use the NL/ML Converter to integrate with older products such as your BS9000...depeending on how the converter is configured.

MM

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You will be able to integrate it with a BeoVision Eclipse through the use of a NL converter. What you will no longer be able to do is hit Play on your BS9000 and have the Eclipse awaken and play the music as you have it now (even if you have a NL converter). You will be able to Join the setup once you have hit the play button on the BS9000 however from the TV. 

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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carlito replied on Tue, Sep 12 2017 12:41 PM

Can someone explain the advantage of having a Beosound Core instead of a Beosound Essence MK2?

The only difference I’ve found after reading the B&O Core website is the lack of IR Input (Essence user are aware of losing Bluetooth connection between the “wheely” and the Essence).

The Core has built in WISA.

 

What else?

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carlito:

The Core has built in WISA.

Not that I know of - what is your source for that???

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Optical in and out

End-to-end rendering path on the optical interface: 96kHz/24bit

Newer hardware - in wireless section support for the AC standart and for BT 4.1

DPL - for future use

P.S. support for ir might come later.

 

MM

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jans replied on Tue, Sep 12 2017 1:58 PM
I don't think the Core has Wisa.

I would welcome IR support too!
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The BS Core has definitely no WiSA built-in!

MM

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Duels replied on Wed, Sep 13 2017 11:16 AM
Can anyone confirm whether the Bluetooth issues some have experienced with the Essence remote still exist with the core?
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bab replied on Wed, Sep 13 2017 6:38 PM

Hi,

Thanks for all the insights around the Core. You guys are tremendously knowledgeable!

How does the Core connect to NL? Is it via the  Ethernet port (listed below as one of the available ports according to the B&O Core web page)?

I'm interested in using the Core in a multi room scenario. Consider the following: Can I start audio streaming in the bedroom on, say, an A6, and then have the Core join in the living room, distributing the same stream to all other NL and ML devices in the house (ML via NL/ML Converter, obviously)? For the ML segment, would the NL/ML Converter act as the Audio Master in this case? Note that I am less interested in connecting speakers directly to the Core via the PowerLink sockets.

Conversely, if I start audio streaming on the Core, I would assume the aforementioned A6 (or A9 or M5) can join wirelessly. Is this correct?

-bab

 

Core Connections

1 x USB-C (for power via external power supply)
1 x Power Link socket (RJ45) with two channels
1 x Line-in (analogue & digital combo) with sensing
1 x Ethernet 10/100 Mbit/s
1 x Toslink digital sound out
1 x USB (for connection to the BeoSound Shape)

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Why would you want the Core WITHOUT connected speakers?

MM

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bab replied on Wed, Sep 13 2017 7:10 PM

Simply because some of my speakers are connected to a BV10 (BL8000), while others are connected to ML via BeoLink Passive (BeoVox). There's also a BL3500 in the kitchen connected to ML. I'm therefore really only interested in the Core's NL capabilities.

-bab

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beoaus:

I have a BS9000 and a BV7 in the same room. If I was to replace the BV7 with an Eclipse, are you saying I will no longer be able to integrate the BS9000 and other equipment I have connected in an ML network? Let alone connect a Core?

Hi beoaus,

For a single room setup with Beosound 9000, Eclipse and Beosound Core, you shouldn't need the £600 NL/ML converter.  On the basis that you have the 9000 and the TV within remote control range, simply connect this cable from the Powerlink output of the 9000 to the L/R In socket on the Eclipse to let the 9000 share the TV speakers:-

http://soundsheavenly.com/televisions/158-powerlink-to-beovision-14-horizon-cable-link-your-audio-system-to-your-new-tv.html

This cable will link the Core to the Aux input of the 9000 to play via the TV:-

http://soundsheavenly.com/playmaker-and-essence-wireless-streaming/84-rj45-to-aux-input-cable-airplay-on-your-bo-system.html

Please add this Speake Sense Adapter to the other Powerlink output of the 9000 to give remote control functionality without having Beolab speakers connected:-

http://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/141-beosound-9000-speaker-sense-adapter-gives-remote-control-functions-when-no-speakers-are-connected.html

This should give you access to all your music via the TV, saving you approx. £600 compared to using the NL/ML converter! Cool

Kind regards, Steve.

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bab replied on Thu, Sep 14 2017 5:45 PM

Does anyone know the answers to the above questions?

Thanks,

bab

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You are correct on it all. The Core connects via NL using an Ethernet cable. You will be able to start and join in the situations you listed. No problem.

Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there 

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bab replied on Fri, Sep 15 2017 7:26 PM

Thank you! Sounds like I need to get one of those Big Smile

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