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Beogram 6500 CD not playing first track

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christop420 Posted: Fri, Feb 23 2018 1:52 PM

Hi All, I have a Beogram 6500 CD that will not play the 1st track of any CD.  All other tracks play fine.  Sometimes the 1st track plays but mostly the '1' light flashes but does not play.  If you leave it for 30 seconds or so it eventually starts to play.  Any idesa?

Thanks!

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Peter replied on Fri, Feb 23 2018 2:01 PM

For me it is caused by dirt on a chrome rail on which laser pickup moves. !st track is the most inside so there may be some hard grease. Or the the end swith has moved slightly towards pickup and not allowing to play. Please check the pickup movement.

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Hi Peter, thanks for the info.  What's the best thing to clean the rail with?  Also is it worth cleaning the lens while I have it open?

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Peter replied on Sat, Feb 24 2018 1:08 PM

Clean the rail with soft cloth and then lubricate with some syntetic grease ( do not use silicone one).
Of course lens are worth to clean. Use isoprophyl alcohol mixed with distilled water 30/70 + one small drop of dish washing liquid. Then wipe the lenses with microfibre cloth. Be careful the liquid does not go to focusing wires. If so let them dry for some hours.

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Peter replied on Sat, Feb 24 2018 1:08 PM

Clean the rail with soft cloth and then lubricate with some syntetic grease ( do not use silicone one).
Of course lens are worth to clean. Use isoprophyl alcohol mixed with distilled water 30/70 + one small drop of dish washing liquid. Then wipe the lenses with microfibre cloth. Be careful the liquid does not go to focusing wires. If so let them dry for some hours.

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Weebyx replied on Sun, Feb 25 2018 6:49 AM

Peter:

For me it is caused by dirt on a chrome rail on which laser pickup moves. !st track is the most inside so there may be some hard grease. Or the the end swith has moved slightly towards pickup and not allowing to play. Please check the pickup movement.

The 6500 laser does not move en a rail. It is the curved kind that uses electromagnetism  to control where the laser is.

i think a cleaning of the lens and change of capacitors should do the job instead. Search for C2103 and you can source a new capacitor kit from Dillen on this forum.

 

/Jacob

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Peter replied on Sun, Feb 25 2018 8:01 PM

Strange, because it looks like hardware problem. Do you know the laser mechanism type in Beogram 6500 CD ?

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Weebyx replied on Sun, Feb 25 2018 8:27 PM

Peter:

Strange, because it looks like hardware problem. Do you know the laser mechanism type in Beogram 6500 CD ?

It is the same type as 9500/34-4500 and more. They rarely fail with issues other than capacitors. Can’t remember the number of them right now.

The newer cdm 4 types move straight on a rail as you mention. The curved versions do not.

 

/Jacob

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Peter replied on Mon, Feb 26 2018 12:59 PM

Do you mean laser mechanism as below CDM4/19 ?

http://www.ersatzteil.justone-schnepel.de/html/philips_cdm4_19_cdm419.html

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Weebyx replied on Mon, Feb 26 2018 7:49 PM

Peter:

Yes...

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Peter replied on Tue, Feb 27 2018 10:46 AM

Unfortunately I didn't deal with it so far ... but there are some screws to unscrew and inspect the inside.

Christop420 please let us know once you find the root cause.

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Weebyx replied on Tue, Feb 27 2018 11:01 AM

Very important.. DO NOT begin to adjust the screws that holds the back of the laser, even though they look like adjustment screws.

The most probable cause is the it needs a cleaning and new capacitors, especially C2103 cap.

These units rarely fail hardware wise, some of them used in Beogram cd35/4500 and wall-mounted, can show other errors, because of gravity pulling the laser "wrong". but when surface mounted, the 99% can be revived with new caps and cleaning.

/Jacob

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