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Upgrading rooftop terrace: outdoor speakers

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Proost Posted: Mon, Jun 25 2018 3:14 PM

Hey there,

For a few years I've been reading some of Beoworld's forums. Always useful to enter a B&O store fully prepared :) Now I've got a question myself regarding outdoor speakers.

I'm planning to upgrade my rooftop terrace. It is located right next to my living room which is equipped with a V1, BeoLab 3s and 11. Most of the time I use Airplay for streaming music but I do not want to exclude the (possibly future) use of B&O's multi room. And as I prefer an additional music zone over connecting them to the V1's Apple TV,  I'm considering the BeoSound Core. Is it any good? (My Essence mk2 and its remote still give me headaches.) Second, how to connect them to passive speakers? Does B&O still make amplifiers? And last, what speakers do you recommend for permanent outdoor use? Any thoughts on the B&W AM-1? What about the Terrestrial Line by OA/B&O? Is it already available?

Thanks!

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beotex replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 1:30 PM
I use a Core connected to a Sonance amp and their Sonarray speakers for our outdoors. I am very happy with the solution. It works well as standalone or in a multiroom setting.

B&O make new amplifiers but I got the Sonance system as a package with the amp, so didn’t really look into them.
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kallasr replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 2:02 PM
We use Yamaha NSW-592 passive speakers since several years. You would need an amp (MCL2P or ML/MCL converter or Beolink Passive) to drive them.

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Stan replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 2:31 PM

I use an Essence mk2 connected to a BeoLink Passive (using a cable from our sponsor Steve).  This drives some Polk Audio Atriums (forget the model).  I like it very much.  My neighbor has some Klipsh outdoor speakers which sound awesome, but they're also huge.

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Jeff replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 2:39 PM

Stan:

I use an Essence mk2 connected to a BeoLink Passive (using a cable from our sponsor Steve).  This drives some Polk Audio Atriums (forget the model).  I like it very much.  My neighbor has some Klipsh outdoor speakers which sound awesome, but they're also huge.

There are a variety of different sizes in Klipsch's outdoor line. I would recommend them based on experience in using them in outdoor training ranges in fairly harsh environments at my last job. I was amazed at their durability and sound quality was very good. You could tell they were designed with the outdoors in mind.

Jeff

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chucky replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 5:47 PM

Whistle no idea if they sound ok but I stumbled a while ago on these ......

garvan acoustic drop

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You could also use the old Beovox CX range that sound great for their size and ideal in many situations.

 

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kallasr replied on Wed, Jun 27 2018 7:18 PM
Outdoor only if it never rains...

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trackbeo replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 2:26 AM

Proost:
What about the Terrestrial Line by OA/B&O? Is it already available?
As @Millemissen pointed out to me, there is a specific design and use case for those "line array" speakers.  I feel they would be useful only if you have a *really* large rooftop terrace, and no neighbors -- or have neighbors who desire the "distance fidelity" provided to them by your line array!  

Instead, because "Rooftop terrace" sounds like the top floor of a multi-family or close city dwelling neighbors, I would consider installing twice as many speakers as you normally would, and running them all at half the volume you normally would.  Thus you are creating "near field" listening in every location on your own terrace, but without making it loud enough for the neighbors to complain.  If necessary for multiple fixed seating areas, even consider a Left/Right/Right/Left configuration to create "rooms" of stereo (two in this case) with transition, rather than putting all the Left speakers on one side and the Right speakers on the other.

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Proost replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 2:22 PM

Thank you all for your replies. As my terrace is fully open air, not that big (10 m2) and the neighbours do not always appreciate my roommates’ music taste and volume level, I think I will have a closer look at the Klipsch landscape satellites (P500). Now to decide which amp to put between the speakers and the Core.

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kallasr replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 2:47 PM
For 10 m2 a Beoplay A1 might be just fine...

Ralf

Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)

In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s). 

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Jeff replied on Thu, Jun 28 2018 3:49 PM

Proost:

Thank you all for your replies. As my terrace is fully open air, not that big (10 m2) and the neighbours do not always appreciate my roommates’ music taste and volume level, I think I will have a closer look at the Klipsch landscape satellites (P500). Now to decide which amp to put between the speakers and the Core.

In addition to the traditional Klipsch speakers we used in the training ranges, we also used a lot of their little speakers that look like rocks, stuck in among all the other rocks here and there. We had one that was out of the rock lined ditch, every day we found it down at the bottom of the ditch, the range boss didn't know it was a speaker and kept kicking it back into the ditch like it was a rock. As I say, they impressed me with their durability.

The suggestion to go with more speakers, more evenly distributed, at a lower volume level was a good one. As for amplification, depends on how many channels you need. Parasound makes a small, half rack sized amp that works quite well and takes up little space. I have one and the associated preamp I use in my workroom, works very well.

 

Jeff

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