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Beomaster 1900 Misschien weet Blackrix raad.

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kunsf00 Posted: Fri, Oct 26 2018 3:40 PM
Hallo, van mijn Beomaster 1900 doet alleen FM1 knop het. De rest 2 t/m 5 licht de zenderindicator wel op wanneer een zender opzoekt echter komt er geen geluid. Wat kan de oorzaak zijn?

Groeten, Fred

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Blackrix replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 10:17 AM

De afstemming op FM1 doet het wel?

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kunsf00 replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 10:27 AM
Hallo, ja de afstemming op de FM 1 werkt gewoon echter op de rest van de FM toetsen (2 t/m 5) krijg ik geen signaal of ruis binnen.
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Dillen replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 10:27 AM

The circuit for the source indicator lamps works closely together with the muting circuit, allowing for a
brief muting of the sound while switching source.
Wrong wattage front panel lamps can leak enough current through the circuit to activate the muting.
Check that the lamps are correct.

If some sources work and other don't, you can confirm the diagnosis by swapping the lamps from one that works and one that doesn't.

I can supply correct lamps, if you need.

Martin

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Blackrix replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 1:30 PM

Lampjes kan een oorzaak zijn, heb je die vervangen? 

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kunsf00 replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 6:04 PM
Kan ik je even een filmpje sturen? Dan wordt e.e.a. wel duidelijk want de lampjes branden normaal. FM1 en FM2 doen het (af en toe met veel ruis). FM 3 t/m 5 lampjes branden, indicator geeft zendersterkte aan maar verder hoor ik niets....???? Groeten Fred
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kunsf00 replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 7:39 PM

Hi Martin, I have some lights from my previous order.

 

 

 

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Dillen replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 9:40 PM

The lamps will light up normally - also if they are wrong wattage.
The problem is with the circuit they work in.

If you have some spare lamps from me, try fitting them for the sources that are silent.

Martin

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kunsf00 replied on Mon, Oct 29 2018 9:55 PM
Oké Martin, I will try 👍
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kunsf00 replied on Tue, Oct 30 2018 12:59 PM
Hoi Martin, The stand-by button does not work from My Beomaster 1900. I have to switch off The Beomaster with The power button. What could be The cause of this?

Using The right lights is importent.

But not in The stand-by mode of The master. This is illuminated by a LED.

Is it obvious that The steering trolley is then defective.

What is The number of The steering trolley?

Greetings Fred
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Dillen replied on Tue, Oct 30 2018 4:58 PM

If nothing happens when you touch the standby pad, check that the pads bronze contact connects to its pin on the main board.
If the relay just clicks when you touch the standby pad, but the Beomaster goes back on when you lift your finger off the pad, check IC9 (SPS5431).

Martin 

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kunsf00 replied on Fri, Nov 2 2018 3:01 PM
Hi Martin, it's true. I have replaced the lights and all the transmitters are working. So far everything is fine. But now the following problem arises. The Beomaster 1900 becomes very hot and starts to stink. What could be the cause of this? Greetings Fred
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Dillen replied on Fri, Nov 2 2018 4:41 PM

Idle currents to high.
Replace the trimmers and adjust. 

Martin

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kunsf00 replied on Fri, Nov 2 2018 4:51 PM
What do you mean? And how can I adjust it? Fred
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kunsf00 replied on Fri, Nov 2 2018 5:46 PM
Hoi Blackrix, ik heb de lampjes vervangen en alles werkt. Krijg nu gewoon een goed signaal op FM2 t/m FM5. Echter nu wordt de Beomaster 1900 erg warm en begint te stinken. Volgens Martin ligt dit aan de Idle currents en “Idle currents to high.

Replace the trimmers and adjust”. Begrijp alleen niet wat hiermee wordt bedoeld. Groeten Fred
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kunsf00 replied on Sat, Nov 3 2018 10:11 AM
Do you have photos or examples that make it clear? Strange though. The lights FM1 to FM5 do not replace the rest. The problem is solved. But the Beomaster becomes very warm, which he did not have at first. Fred
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Dillen replied on Sat, Nov 3 2018 1:43 PM

All Class-B amplifiers needs a little idle current to keep the output stage just opened.
It has something to do with the transistors charateristics.
Without idle current, you will have cross-over distortion.
With to high idle current, the output stage will work hard and run warm, even if it doesn't actually play anything. 

The adjustment trimmers go bad and must be replaced.
After replacing, the new components must be adjusted to the correct setting.
It's all in the servicemanual.

Martin

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