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Hello all!
For 2018 I should have been the best husband ever existed cause my beloved wife gave me as a present a BLI.
I have never had any experience with bang Olufsen gateways (neither MLGW nor BLGW) and I have to admit that it is super easy to use and program. I have upgraded to PRO and within a couple of hours I have connected my HUE lights, enabled the HomeControl menu to my bioplay V1, added my NEST thermostat, enabled a couple of voice commands, etc.
I am currently trying to find a way to control my EPSON projector (TW 7300). The projector supports control4 and can receive commands via ethernet. On the BLI part I have enabled port 9100 under integration protocols. Furthermore, it seems that there is no specific driver for EPSON projectors in khimo's drivers repository.
Second issue (which I believe is a bit easier to solve) is that I am trying to connect a TP-Link NC450 by inserting the camera's IP with the port number at both base url and rstp url but I could not establish a connection.
Any ideas are welcome
Have a Great Year!!!!!
Nice :)
I have been thinking about the BLI. What is the cost for the actual hardware as well as upgrade to PRO?
Tried to find priceinformation but I found nothing so far.
I will eventually have to replace my LC2s I use for light control since I have to go to LED bulbs soon. Will that require PRO in order to interface towards e.g Homekit bulbs?
Livingroom: BL3, BL11, BV11-46 Kitchen: Beosound 1 GVA, Beocom 2 Bathroom: M3 Homeoffice: M3, Beocom 2 Library: Beosound Emerge, Beocom 6000 Bedroom: M5, Essence remote Travel: Beoplay E8 2.0, Beoplay EQ, Beoplay Earset
Note that there is a thread regarding the Beoliving Intelligence in the Automation forum.
Hello Hiort
the cost was around 1000 euros for the BLI and 600 for the upgrade. I will check the kin immediately!
Tassos: Hello Hiort the cost was around 1000 euros for the BLI and 600 for the upgrade. I will check the kin immediately!
The cost sounds nice. Better than the BLGW. Especially when you factor in that for the BLGW to use Alexa/IFTTT, we must pay an annual subscription to Khimo of around $100 USD -- which isn't necessary with the BLI.
Khimo has advised me that even with the NL/ML Converter, the control of ML products will be limited compared to what we have with the BLGW. Khimo plans to write a driver to interface the BLI with the BLGW to get full functionality. Therefore, we might need to hold onto our existing BLGW if we have ML products.
It's great to finally have someone here with first-hand experience with the BLI. Please do keep us posted with your experiences. Perhaps this thread should be moved to the home automation forum so it doesn't get buried by other threads.
P.S. You were asking about controlling the Epson projector. You might want to take a look at the Global Caché products, for which there are drivers for the BLI/BLGW. You can control just about anything with them and the price is pretty inexpensive. You go to their website and download the codes for whatever you want to control. I checked and Epson projector codes are in their database. You can find the Global Caché models on Amazon. There are IR models as well as RS232 models. I got an IR model to control my Dyson humidifier.
Hello beojeff
after having searched the web on how to control the Epson projector I have decided to go for the global cache solution. It seems that there is no other way to control the projector via the ethernet port but the iprojection app.
As far as the subscription is concerned you still have to subscribe to have remote access to the BLI.
Moreover I have to admit that they have done a great job with the interface and possibilities you get with it. It is very easy to program (I have never had any experience with home automation systems).
My next step will be to add the Rako and Doorbird system. I am planning to do so within the next month. My feeling is that they will integrate smoothly like all other systems.
There is though one issue I have run into and haven't yet solved. When a Beosound Moment source is selected FROM ANY OTHER DEVICE BUT THE MOMENT the source plays for about 5 minutes and then pauses. If the source is started from the moment directly it plays continuously.
I have used the beotool to check any inconsistencies and bli always appear as offline. I will investigate further and come back with an update.
So you're saying that you still have to pay an annual subscription to Khimo? I had thought that you just paid the one-time upgrade fee for the pro version. That's unfortunate.
FYI: If you need to use a paperclip to reset the Global Caché device, a plastic paperclip will not work. It has to be a metal paperclip. This had me quite stumped and frustrated.
Tassos:Hello beojeff after having searched the web on how to control the Epson projector I have decided to go for the global cache solution. It seems that there is no other way to control the projector via the ethernet port but the iprojection app. As far as the subscription is concerned you still have to subscribe to have remote access to the BLI. Moreover I have to admit that they have done a great job with the interface and possibilities you get with it. It is very easy to program (I have never had any experience with home automation systems). My next step will be to add the Rako and Doorbird system. I am planning to do so within the next month. My feeling is that they will integrate smoothly like all other systems. There is though one issue I have run into and haven't yet solved. When a Beosound Moment source is selected FROM ANY OTHER DEVICE BUT THE MOMENT the source plays for about 5 minutes and then pauses. If the source is started from the moment directly it plays continuously. I have used the beotool to check any inconsistencies and bli always appear as offline. I will investigate further and come back with an update.
Thanks a lot chucky and beojeff for sharing your knowledge. It seems that the problem is solved. Maybe it was the credentials for tunein, maybe something else.
As far as the subscription is concerned I believe you need it only for connecting remotely to your BLI. The PRO upgrade is a one time purchase.
Guys I have a question, do you know a way to link the volume control of a BLC to a BEOPLAY V1? My thought is that when the state of the BLC changes only by volume value (this would be the event) it would trigger a volume change to the beoplay v1 (command). The tricky part is to make them match for example BLC's volume value is 34 then Beoplay V1's volume value should be 34.
Any suggestions?
Tassos:Thanks a lot chucky and beojeff for sharing your knowledge. It seems that the problem is solved. Maybe it was the credentials for tunein, maybe something else. As far as the subscription is concerned I believe you need it only for connecting remotely to your BLI. The PRO upgrade is a one time purchase. Guys I have a question, do you know a way to link the volume control of a BLC to a BEOPLAY V1? My thought is that when the state of the BLC changes only by volume value (this would be the event) it would trigger a volume change to the beoplay v1 (command). The tricky part is to make them match for example BLC's volume value is 34 then Beoplay V1's volume value should be 34. Any suggestions?
It is even more complicated!
V1 is in the home theater room. BLC is in the room where all cables end (something like a utility/server room). The reason why I want to do so is cause when the screen for the projector comes down it covers entirely the V1. As a result there is no reception of IR commands by the V1. Yesterday I managed to create a volume up macro by using an IR eye I have in my theater room which I connected to the BLC. But just volume up since I used the state update of the blc to control the volume of the V1.
An other way I am trying to achieve IR control of V1 whilst the projector screen is down is by trying to make a lintronik ttr to work as a repeater but I haven't had any luck yet (I have to admit that I have been trying only a couple of hours).
Do you think I could use the TTR as a repeater?
Tassos: It is even more complicated! V1 is in the home theater room. BLC is in the room where all cables end (something like a utility/server room). The reason why I want to do so is cause when the screen for the projector comes down it covers entirely the V1. As a result there is no reception of IR commands by the V1. Yesterday I managed to create a volume up macro by using an IR eye I have in my theater room which I connected to the BLC. But just volume up since I used the state update of the blc to control the volume of the V1. An other way I am trying to achieve IR control of V1 whilst the projector screen is down is by trying to make a lintronik ttr to work as a repeater but I haven't had any luck yet (I have to admit that I have been trying only a couple of hours). Do you think I could use the TTR as a repeater?
Could you explain more how you have the projector integrated to your system?
One solution, since you have the BLI, is to use Alexa to control the volume. For example, "Alexa, set volume to 50 on living room TV." I use this command often for my BeoSystem 4.
Thanks for the reply beojeff.. To integrate the projector I am expecting an iTach ip2ir. I am planning to install a blaster and two low power eyes. The blaster is going to control the projector and my AC and the low power ones are going to control an NVidia Shield and a cable tv stb I have hidden away.
I can control volume of V1 when the screen of the projector is down via the Beoliving app but my beloved wife is very fond of the beo6 and she prefers to use a "conventional" way to control the home theater. She finds it much easier (and I have to agree with that) to simply pick an IR remote and turn the wheel instead of having to unlock her phone and look at the screen to press the volume up/down button each time she wants to regulate the volume.
Unfortunately V1 does not support audio control via HDMI. At this point I have to add that I am using an Atlona Switcher (5 inputs to 2 mirrored outputs) in order to have my sources available to both projector and V1.
Any ideas?
I think that voice control to set the volume via Alexa is the simplest solution.
You COULD run another IR blaster from the ITach. However, you would need to program the trigger on the Beo6 as a soft button with a LIGHT/CONTROL command. The volume increase/decrease would just be incremental and would need repeated presses of the soft button. B&O discourages trying to set continuous volume commands because it could run out of control if there is interference with the macro.
The Alexa command is very easy to use and lets you set the volume immediately to the exact setting.
beojeff:I think that voice control to set the volume via Alexa is the simplest solution.You COULD run another IR blaster from the ITach. However, you would need to program the trigger on the Beo6 as a soft button with a LIGHT/CONTROL command. The volume increase/decrease would just be incremental and would need repeated presses of the soft button. B&O discourages trying to set continuous volume commands because it could run out of control if there is interference with the macro.The Alexa command is very easy to use and lets you set the volume immediately to the exact setting.
Thanx for the responses guys!!!! Alexa is a very good solution indeed. I will try and order one from amazon as it is not sold in Greece.
Yesterday I bumped onto this:
https://rakocontrols.com/media/1140/ravir-data-sheet.pdf
do you think it could be used to control volume? On the products sheet it says it should be used as a scene selector, BUT it also states that "In ‘multiroom’mode it is also possible to raise and lower individual dimmer channels" do you think it could be used as an event that could trigger volume up/down????
I'm surprised you don't already have an Echo. It seems that Alexa control was the focus of the new BLI. You can certainly control the volume. It doesn't even need a macro. You can actually be specific as to what volume to set your tv. For example, I can say "Alexa, set the volume to 50 on the living room tv" and my BeoSystem 4 instantly goes to volume level 50. This seems like a good solution for you since your projector screen blocks the IR receiver of your tv.
Here are some example of voice controls that I use:
"Alexa, turn off the living room tv."
"Alexa, change input to Apple TV on the living room tv."
"Alexa, pause living room tv."
"Alexa, trigger PAUSE." (this is just another way of triggering PAUSE, but this time using a macro and IFTTT)
"Alexa, trigger RELAX." (sets a light scene)
"Alexa, trigger MORNING." (sets a light scene and turns on the tv, in my case)
Note that only the commands that use the word "trigger" require macros. Those macros work by way of IFTTT. However, there are other commands that work directly via Alexa that do not require IFTTT or macros.
Thank you guys for all the replies! It took me some time but I finally done it. I used a lintronic on beorepeater mode and the problem is now solved. Next step is to add voice command, I have to admit I was a bit jealous that I have no voice control over my system :-) . I am quite familiar with google assistant. Do you think there is a way to add the BLI on the google assistant app? I have to admit that trying the Alexa assistant (iPhone app) is quite easy to setup and use but given I already have quite a few google assistant routines I would prefer to go for google assistant.
My understanding is that Khimo plans to add Google integration in the future, but for now it's just Alexa.
However, you could still use IFTTT to integrate macros with Echo. It's just much easier to use the native Alexa control. You don't even need macros with Alexa. I think this direct integration is the direction B&O is wanting to take with the new BLI.
beojeff:My understanding is that Khimo plans to add Google integration in the future, but for now it's just Alexa. However, you could still use IFTTT to integrate macros with Echo. It's just much easier to use the native Alexa control. You don't even need macros with Alexa. I think this direct integration is the direction B&O is wanting to take with the new BLI.