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Beogram plus 2. Quelle an Aux bei Ouvertüre

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francis
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francis Posted: Sun, Jan 27 2019 3:37 PM

Hallo zusammen,

an meiner Ouvertüre hängt am Aux Eingang ein Beogram 4500, den ich ich auch über die Beo4 steuere. Ich würde nun gern zusätzlich eine weitere Audioquelle (konkret einen DAB+ Receiver) and die Ouverture anschließen.

Hat jemand eine Idee, wie ich das realisieren könnte? (ohne ständiges Umstöpseln und ohne die Steuerungsfähigkeit über die Beo4 zu verlieren).

Die Ouverture hängt per Masterlink an einem BV 10/40. Ginge darüber vielleicht etwas?

 

Danke für Tips

 

Francis

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ralfja replied on Fri, Feb 1 2019 8:59 AM

Hallo Francis,

schau mal hier: https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

bzw. hier: https://soundsheavenly.com/music-input/18-419-aux-input-switch-box-for-multiple-input-devices-to-one-aux-socket-4-way.html#/36-output-5_pin_din_aux

 

Vorher per EMail bei Sounsheavenly anfragen, um sicherzugehen. Steve antwortet i.d.R. prompt und kompetent. 

 

Grüße

Ralf

 

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francis replied on Fri, Feb 1 2019 1:02 PM
Danke für die Info.

Wenn ich nur das Signal zu übertragen hätte würde das sicher funktionieren.

Aber der Beogram hat einen 7poligen Stecker um die Signale für die Bedienung des Tonarmes auch zu übertragen. Und diese Signale müssen ja durchgeschleift werden.

Aber Steve mal zu fragen ist sicher sinnvoll. Wenn einer eine Lösung hat, dann erSmile

Gruß

Francis
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ralfja replied on Fri, Feb 1 2019 1:40 PM

Der Splitter im ersten Link ist ja 7-polig. Aber wie du schon sagst - Steve fragen :-)

 

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Hi Francis and Ralf,

Sorry for replying in English.  Yes, the Aux Splitter is the best option, as it is a 7 pin version to allow remote control of the Beogram:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

You can then connect a DAB radio or other music source to the other side of the splitter with this cable to share the Aux socket:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/52-72-stereo-rca-twin-phono-to-beosound-aux-input-din-socket.html#/2-length-1m

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sat, Feb 2 2019 12:31 PM

Hi both,

thanks a lot for your help and advice. Much appreciated.

I'm sure the splitter will solve my problem. I did not notice before it has indeed 7 pins. Have just ordered one from Soundsheavenly.Big Smile

Best regards

Francis

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Thanks Francis,

 I will get this posted on Monday morning.

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sat, Feb 2 2019 3:55 PM
I have also dropped you a question regarding connecting an Apple TV to an BV7 with only DVI socket.

Looking forward to your advice on that as well

Regards

Francis

PS I love the Beoworld forum. Thanks to Sounds Heavenly for sponsoring it!
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Thanks Francis,

I know that some people have had success using converters between a new Apple TV and an earlier Beovision 7 TV, but the results can be variable so I don't usually recommend these.  Instead, you can use a 1st generation Apple TV with Component video outputs to the TV (these are available on eBay as pre-owned items).

Another option (which I use at home on my Beovision 8-32) is to connect an old computer to the DVI input of the TV for all your streaming video and online movies, this has the advantage of also letting you use the TV for web browsing.

Beoworld is the friendliest forum I have found online, it is a real pleasure to be able to help support it.

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sat, Feb 9 2019 12:06 PM

Hi Steve,

I just received the splitter, thanks for the quick delivery.

Unfortunately, it does not work as expected. This is what I experienced:

  • Only Beogram connected to splitter --> OK for sound and control of turntable
  • Only Technisat DAB+ receiver connected to splitter --> OK for sound
  • Both devices connected, but Technisat switched off --> very muted and heavily disturbed sound from Beogram. Control of turntable works
  • Both devices connected, but Technisat switched on --> only sound from Technisat to be heard.Control of turntable works.

Do you have any Idea on how to solve the issue? Here some details of the setup for your information:

Beogram 4500 with original 7 pin connection. Technisat Digitradio 110 IR, connected via audio out (3.5 mm jack plug and cable into a 3.5 mm jack to 5 pole DIN plug adapter; the Technisat has no line out, the only other option is  an optical out). The adapter does not cause the problem. If only the adapter with the 3.5 mm plug and cable attached  is connected to the splitter while the Beogram is playing, everything is fine. Only when the  second 3.5 mm plug is then connected to the Technisat, the problem starts.

Best regards

Francis

 

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Hi Francis,

I am sorry to hear that you are having problems.  It is most likely that the mains power supply for the Technisat radio is the cause of the issue.  If you unplug the 3.5mm cable from the back of the Technisat radio and instead plug it into a portable music player (eg. iPod or phone), do you get normal sound and control of the Beogram please?

Please note that you will need to turn up the iPod/phone volume to get a normal sound level.  Please let me know how you get on and I will be pleased to assist further.

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sat, Feb 9 2019 4:44 PM
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your swift response and support.

Just tested with my iPhone, exactly the same result as beforeSad.

Any thoughts Unsure?

Best regards

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Francis
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Hi Francis,

Thanks for your reply.  Could this be an issue with the 3.5mm to 5 pin DIN cables and adapters that you are using please?

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sun, Feb 10 2019 9:16 AM
Hi Steve,

I tried 3.5 mm to cinch adapter —> cinch to 5 pin DIN adapter —> splitter. Unfortunately again exactly the same result: As soon as I connect the 3.5 mm plug to a device (iPhone or TechniSat) the sound from the Beogram is disturbed and almost gone.

Best regards

Francis
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Hi Francis,

This sounds like an impedance mis-match between the Beogram output and the headphone output of the other device.  Usually, when using a device with line level RCA outputs alongside a Beogram with a pre-amp, there should be no issues.

In this case, the best option is to change the Aux Splitter to a switch box to isolate the different sources so that you can manually switch between them as required:-

https://soundsheavenly.com/music-input/18-419-aux-input-switch-box-for-multiple-input-devices-to-one-aux-socket-4-way.html#/36-output-5_pin_din_aux

Kind regards, Steve.

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francis replied on Sun, Feb 10 2019 3:07 PM
Hi Steve

Your website mentions „output connection 5pin Din Aux“

I assume I will then loose the opportunity to control the turntable via my Beo4?

Anyway, the whole issue is not a really great thing. I use the Beogram quite infrequently and the plugs are easy accessible. I will probably keep switching the plugs when necessaryWink. I can use the splitter to reduce the risk of damaging the Overtures‘ AUX socket.

Best regards

Francis

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Hi Francis,

Yes, unfortunately you would lose remote control of the Beogram if you use the switch box..... unless you keep the Beogram connected via the splitter and connect the switch box to the other socket of the splitter (instead of directly to the Ouverture.

This way, the Beogram has a direct connect with remote control and you can also add more devices to the Aux socket via the switch box as required.

Kind regards, Steve.

 

PS. Thanks Ralf! Smile

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