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[Solved] BV 10 & BS5 & Masterlink

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gerard Posted: Fri, Mar 2 2018 5:58 PM

Hi,

 

I just got an BV 10-46 in replacment of my AV9000 , my BL8000 snd BL6000 from the AV9000 setup are hooked up to the BV10 and work fine.

 

Now I thought I could connect a BeoSound5 to the BV 10 using a masterlink cable and get the sound from the Labs connected to the BV10.

 

 

Could you help me configure this setup??

 

It's my first time usage of masterlink.

 

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Connect a ML Cable between the BV10-46 and the BM5

On the BS5 dial lever to settings. Do not press a button

Then press > < > < Go to get into Maintenance Menu

Lever to Roles

Audio Mater - Yes

AM Option 0/0

Decide on N.Music/CD to start HDD on BM5 (Beo4 command)

Decide on N.Radio/Radio for BS5 Radio (Beo4 command)

 

That should be it. However, to ensure, press Stby and List together on Beo4.

Scroll Through Add/Move/Remove to Option

Press Go

Select A.Opt - Set to 2 on BV10-46

Select V.Opt - Set to 2 on BV10-46 (may not be required)

Exit

 

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gerard replied on Fri, Mar 2 2018 7:23 PM
You are my hero Big Smile

Set A-Opt on BS5 to 0 and

set V-Opt on BV10 to 2 and it works Lets have a Party !!!

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gerard replied on Fri, Mar 2 2018 11:45 PM

I first found this picture on the net

I set the options with the Beo4, after reading your post, I entered the service menu on BS5 , changed the N.Music and N.Radio and checked the AM Option. It was set to 1 , but I had set it to 0 with the Beo4. I changed the AM Option to 0.

-> No more sound from the BeoLabs!

I switched back to Option 1, but no difference still no sound

EDIT2:

with AM Option 0 the BS5 does not react on Beo4 StandBy button.

With AM Option 1 the BS5 goes to standby when using the standby Button on the Beo4

EDIT2:

which A-Option should be set on the BV 10?
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gerard replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 7:34 PM
Hi to all of you,

I need your help once more to set my Options, after updating my BS5 to a new SSD, I do not know which settings I had. BTW they did not work very good.

The situation :

everything in one room,

BV10-55 with 2 BL8000 and 2 BL6000 connected by Powerlink.

BM5/BS5 connected to the BV10 by Masterlink.

My questions;

1. Does my BV10 need to have V-Opt and A-Opt settings or only V-Opt ?

2. Does my Beo4 need special settings?

3. In the BV10 and BS5 Manual I read:

BV10 Option2 BS5 Option0,

for BV does this mean V-Opt or A-Opt?

4. When setting BS5 to Option0 I do not have any control of it

5. Setting BS5 to Option1 I have control by the Beo4 but do not have any Sound on my BLs connected to the BV10.

I'm desperate

thanks for your help

gerard
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Razlaw replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 7:54 PM
BV10 should be V Option 2. There is no Audio Option for the BV10. BS5 needs to be set to Option 0. It should work fine then. No special settings for Beo 4. You May need to make a setting in the BV 10 menu to indicate whether your Beo 4 is with or without the navigation button.

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gerard replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 8:03 PM
Thank you for clarifying this,

BV10 Beo4 is set to joystick

BS5 is set to Option 0

Is it possible to check the setting of BV10 ?

When on Beo4 doing List+StandBy / Options / V-Opt. / 2 I never see the 2 on the display. Is that right?
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Razlaw replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 9:23 PM
Yes. That is correct. The BV 10 needs to be turned off when you set it to video option 2. The red standby light will turn off briefly when you select video option 2 on the remote. There is a way to get in to a service menu to verify the option setting, I think, but I do not know how to do that.

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gerard replied on Sat, Feb 23 2019 10:50 PM
Thanks,

MENU 0 0 GO brings up the service Menu.

Monitor / Monitor Info / lists the Option Setting: set to 2

BS5 A-Opt. set to 0

BS5 Radio set to N-Radio

BS5 A.MEM set to N-Music

BS5 CD set to CD (Ripping device connected)

When in StandBy, using Radio or A.Mem or CD on the Beo4 has the same action:

after 5 seconds comes clicking relay sound from BV10, then during 2 seconds fan noise on BV10, then after 10 seconds new clicking relay sound from BV10.

All BL leds stay red

BS5 is not starting.

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RaMaBo replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 12:29 AM

Hi,

 

the BS5 needs A.Opt 0 to not react on IR signals, this will be handled by the BV10. But it also has to be set to 'Audiomaster = Yes'.

The Audiomaster setting defines it's role in the masterlink system. If you own a BS900 for example, the BS9000 is the Audiomaster and an additional BS5 has to 'give up' it's role as Audiomaster in the system. If you don't utilize another audio system in your master link system then the BS5 has to be an Audiomaster!

So you should set your system to standby and then set the V.OPt 2 (for the TV, it should blink if set successful), then A.Opt 0 for the BS5 and in the settings of the BS5 'Audiomaster = Yes' as stated in the first reply by 'Mr. 10 Percent'.

 

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 8:04 AM
Thanks for the detailed answer, but my BS5 is set to Audiomaster YES, otherwise I could not change the A-Opt setting. I do not have any other Audio System connected to the BV10 and BS5.

Before swapping to the SSD , I had to turn on the BV10 using TV on the Beo4, once the BeoLabs had switched to green I could use CD or Radio to turn on the BS5 and switch of the BV10 Monitor and bring it back to 0 Position.

I'm stuck

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 1:08 PM
Unpowering and unplugging everything help.

powered up Bv10 first, then BM5 und plugged in the ML-cable last.

BS5 is controled now by the Beo4 through BV10 BLs switch to green and sound is played by the BLs.

Beo4 StandBy button works for BS5.

Thats all fine.

Last not working thing is when I control BS5 by its hardware buttons , GO , Lever , Ring , the BS5 starts playing but I get no sound ass the BLs stay red. SadSadSad
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Razlaw replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 1:31 PM
I was just getting ready to suggest that you try unplugging the system but now see you have already done that. Sorry, I have no clue why starting it from the BS5 is not working.

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 1:36 PM
starting it from the BS5 should bring the BeoLabs up, even when they are not connected to the BM5?
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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 4:07 PM

gerard:
When in StandBy, using Radio or A.Mem or CD on the Beo4 has the same action:

after 5 seconds comes clicking relay sound from BV10, then during 2 seconds fan noise on BV10, then after 10 seconds new clicking relay sound from BV10.

All BL leds stay red

BS5 is not starting.

The BS5 is not set up propperly

 

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 4:07 PM

removed, to enthousiast clicking

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 4:07 PM

duplicate post

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 4:39 PM
gerard:

starting it from the BS5 should bring the BeoLabs up, even when they are not connected to the BM5?

Yes.

I have speakers connected to my BV10. Using the BS5 controls starts the front speakers connected to the BV10. It seems as if something is either not set up right or there is a malfunction in the Beosound 5. Are you sure the Beosound 5 is in option 0? Other options would start speakers connected directly to the Beosound 5 as opposed to the speakers connected to the BV10.

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 8:25 PM
A-Opt = 0 see picture:

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 9:46 PM
Sorry, I don’t have any other possible solutions. Hopefully somebody else will have a solution for you.

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Razlaw replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 9:51 PM
One quick thought, after you turn the dial to 0 0, are you pressing go to store the setting?

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 10:05 PM
Could you compare you Firmware Versions with mine?

Maybe I need to update the BM5 ML Firmware ?
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Razlaw replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 10:18 PM
How do you bring up the menu with the firmware version?

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RaMaBo replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 10:25 PM

Booting a Masterlink system should be done in the following sequence:

- Power off all devices

- Disconnect every Masterlink device from the Masterlink cables

- Set al the V.OPT, A.OPT and L.OPT settings

- connect every Masterlink device to the Masterlink cables.

- Connect the Video Master device (if it exists in this setup) (which is the case here Smile ) to the mains and power it up.

- wait about 2 minutes

- Connect the Audio Master device to the mains and power it up.

- wait about 2 minutes

- Connect one Link device and power it up

- wait about 2 minutes

- repeat the last two steps until all Link devices are connected

 

Now the BS5 should be usable via it's own controls and the sound should come from the speakers connected to the TV.

This afternoon you started both devices and connected the masterlink afterwards! This could cause the errartic behvour.

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gerard replied on Sun, Feb 24 2019 11:20 PM
@RazLaw

Yes A-Opt =0 is saved by GO

to bring up the Firmware Info:

-set lever to MODES

-turn ring to SETTINGS

-do NOT enter SETTINGS

-push right left right left GO

-set lever to PRODUCT INFO

@ RaMaBo

Thanks for the details, I will try that Monday evening
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Razlaw replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 3:58 AM
My firmware version is same as yours.

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gerard replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 7:26 PM
@RaMaBo

I followed your procedure, added a

- power on before

- Set al the V.OPT, A.OPT and L.OPT settings

- power off afterwards

This did not change anything.

I'll attach two pictures of the junction boxes of my Masterlink-Cable.

BV10 side:

BM5 side:

Do you see something unusual?

Must I have some cross-over wire?

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Razlaw replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 7:53 PM
Have you tried one single MasterLink cable so no need for junction boxes? I know nothing about junction boxes so can not comment on your pictures.

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RaMaBo replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 9:00 PM

Hmm the picture doesn't show something wrong, they should be ok.

All necessary connections are doen internally in the junction box:

- white-blue and pink are connected

- the two outer pairs on every side are all connected with each other (use for the shielding and ground wires)

So no need to set a special cross wire or jumper. Just matching the masterlink wires to the corresponding connection (colour).

 

Did you connect the masterlink cables to the components _before_ final power-up sequence or after the power-up? This should be done before the power-up!

 

And as Razlaw said: Try a single masterlink cable to connect the BM5 and the BV10. Just to make sure that your masterlink cable and the junction boxes don't make the trouble. Try one ML cable, even if its just for testing.

 

Changing the HD to an SSD in the BM5 doesn't have to do with the Masterlink cabling!  This change doesn't have an influence on the function of the masterlink bus BUT unplugging could damage the cable, plug, socket or junction boxes Sad

 

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gerard replied on Mon, Feb 25 2019 10:14 PM
yes, masterlink was connected before power up.

Controlling the setup with Beo4 works fine.

1. In the BS5 settings I found "Delay" , what is it about?

2. Only once the BV10 switched the Labs to green as I used the BS5 hardware buttons. I could not reproduce it a second time.

3. Are there different StandBy situations of the BV10, is mine in a deep standby so the BS5 cannot wake it up?

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Feb 26 2019 12:16 AM
I do not know what the delay function does. I looked at mine and it is set at 3 if you want to try that setting.

As it worked once, makes me think it is a connection problem somewhere in the MasterLink cable and junction box.

I do not believe there are different stand by modes, such as deep standby you mentioned.

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Feb 26 2019 12:23 AM
Does your BV10 have a power saving feature in the Stand By menu? Mine does not but looking at user guides online it appears some may. Maybe if you have the power saving feature and have it set to on it might cause the issue you are having?

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gerard replied on Tue, Feb 26 2019 7:31 AM

Lets have a Party !!! Lets have a Party !!! Lets have a Party !!! Lets have a Party !!!

It's working,

My BV10-46 has indeed Standby Settings , Power Saving Mode was switched ON, switching it OFF brings the BLs up when using the hardware buttons of the BS5.

Thank you so much for your help.

Having someone answering my questions and searching with me gave me the motivation to keep on trying to find a solution.

Thank you Razlaw, RaMaBo, Mr 10Percent

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Feb 26 2019 12:58 PM
Wonderful! Glad the problem is solved.

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gerard replied on Wed, Feb 27 2019 1:14 PM
Thanks,

I will now move on to my BM5 HDD to SSD upgrade project entirely made on BM5 without any PC/MAC.

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